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#11
07-06-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
I haven't read the book in a while, but I think the section is tournament-only. I don't really play much NL, but I do not think that is a great idea to go all-in with a marginal hand (in a ring game) like Doyle writes in SuperSystem.
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#13
07-07-2005, 12:52 AM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
There are a couple of points you miss. First, if he wins 10 $3000 pots making semibluffs and gets called on one $30,000 pot taking 2 to 1 the worst of it per 11 attempts on average, then he is making around $10,000 per these 11 hands on average. Not too bad considering he is making money no matter what type a dog he is when he gets called. The second major factor, is this strategy lets him get paid off on his big hands too. People won't want to fold TPTK against him, so often he will get called when he holds a set, 2 pair, or a made straight. The beauty of this is that the extra action he generates will give him heavy rewards on his bigger hands and even more than pays for itself.
I have never played this strategy, but it at least appears sound to me from what I have read in Supersystem. I don't believe this strategy is suited for most of todays lower buy-in games (which is where I play), because people will just call too much and there really isn't much need to generate action (you get plenty in my experience). There is no way you will be stealing enough to make this profitable. Against unsophisticated opponents you just need to show them a hand and draw with proper odds which I believe Doyle discusses as well.
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#14
07-07-2005, 12:55 AM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
Which is why Doyle does so poorly in tournaments.
HE SHOULD READ HARRINGTON ON HOLD'EM VOL 1 AND 2!!!
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#15
07-07-2005, 10:45 AM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
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Which is why Doyle does so poorly in tournaments. HE SHOULD READ HARRINGTON ON HOLD'EM VOL 1 AND 2!!! [/ QUOTE ] winning his 10th wsop bracelet in 6max at age 70+ is doing poorly?
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#16
07-07-2005, 12:26 PM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which is why Doyle does so poorly in tournaments. HE SHOULD READ HARRINGTON ON HOLD'EM VOL 1 AND 2!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- winning his 10th wsop bracelet in 6max at age 70+ is doing poorly? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#17
07-07-2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
Did I forget the [sarcasm] tags again?
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#18
07-07-2005, 02:22 PM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
Search around - there was a long post about the ups and downs of that book.
Also - Doyle is top notch poker player and has been forever - there are prob tons of decisions he makes based on a whole number of thoughts, that could not possibly be written down in a book. I'm sure the information can be used if followed correctly, but he knows his opponents so well that he can play in that style. Plus, you have to be a super-aggressive player in the first place to use that style. Check out that example where he called a guy down with Jack high - he makes it sound simple, but I'm sure he knew that player so well and practically "knew" his hand that he could make the call.
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#20
07-07-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: I disagree with Doyle.
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Which is why Doyle does so poorly in tournaments. HE SHOULD READ HARRINGTON ON HOLD'EM VOL 1 AND 2!!! [/ QUOTE ] You should read things you want to be sarcastic about as well. It's easier to avoid coming off as a total troll then. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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