I can't beat .5/1 Party

[Sasnak]

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He was jokingly confident and had a V$Pip of 95! and a pfr of 12, he was crushing the table and PT has him pegged as "Loose Passive/Passive" (so he wasn't a maniac)


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You had better recheck your PT stats 'cuz 95/12 isn't loose/passive.

If I were you, and I have been at times, I would play a single table and really study the board as they cards fall. Practice counting your outs and pot odds. Don't worry about "implied odds" as I think this actually gets you to make a lot of loose calls early in your poker learning stage.

Know what the nuts are at any given time and start putting your opponents on ranges of hands as he checks, calls or bets when certain cards fall.

From the tone of your post I doubt it's a variance issue and more of needing to improve your post flop play.

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EDIT: 9To is about the easiest fold UTG. Go back to WLLHE and take a look at the charts.

[UATrewqaz]

I've seen people who play every hand go on huge winning streaks and it's not that surprising.

There are only 10 players and SOMEONE is dealt the "winning" hand every hand. Take into account alot of folding (say 6 fold during the course of the hand) that leaves you on average with a 25% chance of winning at showdown playing any two cards... the key to that statement is ON AVERAGE.

My PT database is over 30K hands and you know what, I bet during the course of that 30K I have been dealt the winning hand preflop probably 15-20 times in a row and had I showed them down everyone at the table would have been going on irrate.

Stats and averages will catch up to you, they are good at that, ask casinos, or any guy who's ever been up huge playing craps/roullette and kept pushing it.

To summarize SSHE prelfop: Pick a solid and simple system. Get rid of the hands you have to play excellent with to show a profit. Stick to the winners. Use them to refine your post flop play (where the real money is made). Only after you become a winner this way, then you revist your preflop game and add in hands you can turn a profit with, with your new skills.

1. Play big pairs in any position, always raising.
2. Play medium pairs in any position, raising in late position, especially if no one has entered yet. Be prepared to ditch on dangerous flops (1 overcard on a disconnected board is not so bad, multiple ones or connected boards, eck).
3. Play small pairs agsint LARGE groups (in late position is this easy, in early position you have to know the the table is loose/passive).

4. Ace/face suited, you normally want to raise with these hands, as your pot equity is high. In late position play these hands extremely aggressive, even post flop when it has missed you entirely.

5. Suited connectors (T9 - 54) same rules as small PP really.

6. Suited one gappers (see above).


Too much to type, get SSHE, pick a solid simple system and stick with it. Near perfect preflop play can be achieved by anyone. Post flop is where you have to hone your game.

[phlup]

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It's been awhile since I read it, but I believe limping UTG with T9o isn't in Lee Joneses Book.

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It needs to be said again.

[webgator]

Some people just get lucky...don't get discouraged.

Re-read Lee Jones until you get your SSHE book. Also tighten up your starting hand selection. 10/9 os in almost any postition I am folding...but that is just me.

Confidence for me has come from consistently playing the same game and not having the tendency to loosen up my hand selection when I am up a few $$$. I've seen many people do this and I can't understand why.

I play about 10 hours per week at the .50/1 level (not just Party), and as long as I am up for the week then I am happy.

Though I don't consider myself "crushing" it, I am winning. Here are my stats for Party skins:

VPiP 20.13, PFR 3.1, Went to SD 30.73, Won at SD 56.67 BB/100 1.31

[jaym]

Read, re-read and re-read again WLLH. If you thought that it said anywhere in that book it was cool to play T9o from up front, you have got a serious reading comprehension problem and it can't be fixed in this forum. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Tighten up your preflop standards, post hands, paticipate in discussions and you will get better.

[Guthrie]

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Fold pre-flop

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[benneh]

fold this pre-flop, but why the hell are you ebtting this river? at best, you are looking at a chop. never EVER put money in on a chopping board likethis. villain has a queen and you just gave him an extra bet. the only exception to this would maybe be a board with the nut straight on it and you think you can push your moronic opponent off it somehow.

[Taxmanrick]

I just recently went through the same thing. someone recommended i re-read SShe' post flop section. I also got the advanced player book and read that. I review those often and refer to this site regularly. I makes a difference. Keep positive and play good poker, it will catch up with the idiots out there!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Greg J]

Plenty of good advice on this thread. I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, since I think pretty much everything everyone else has said is dead on.

Okay 2+2 is about honesty and tough love. So I'm gonna offer you some tough love. Someone told this to me at one time, and I share this with people when I think it's appropriate. This is not meant to be offensive, or hurtful, or mean. This is meant to make you a better poker player. Hearing this made me a MUCH better player.

You ready? Okay. It time to realize and accept the fact that, right now, you suck at poker. Now, this does not make you a bad person. It does not mean you kick puppies or sympathize with Nazis. It does not mean you are stupid either. You just don't know what you are doing at a poker table. B/c you suck at poker.

The reason I'm rubbing this in a little (the fact that you suck at poker) is b/c I think it's important that you accept it as truth. No, even more, you need to embrace it. Then you can get better. It's time to deconstruct yr game. Only after you have been totally honest with yrself about yr ability level can you begin to get good, or at least significantly better.

Hope you do well in the future.

EDIT: This applies to hold em. You could probably school me in stud (I see you post on that board).

[Sasnak]

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Plenty of good advice on this thread. I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, since I think pretty much everything everyone else has said is dead on.

Okay 2+2 is about honesty and tough love. So I'm gonna offer you some tough love. Someone told this to me at one time, and I share this with people when I think it's appropriate. This is not meant to be offensive, or hurtful, or mean. This is meant to make you a better poker player. Hearing this made me a MUCH better player.

You ready? Okay. It time to realize and accept the fact that, right now, you suck at poker. Now, this does not make you a bad person. It does not mean you kick puppies or sympathize with Nazis. It does not mean you are stupid either. You just don't know what you are doing at a poker table. B/c you suck at poker.

The reason I'm rubbing this in a little (the fact that you suck at poker) is b/c I think it's important that you accept it as truth. No, even more, you need to embrace it. Then you can get better. It's time to deconstruct yr game. Only after you have been totally honest with yrself about yr ability level can you begin to get good, or at least significantly better.

Hope you do well in the future.

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What Greg J means here is, you suck at poker. Sometimes he beats around the bush a lot. But don't worry about it. 99% of everybody sucked at poker at one time. And the "tough love" thing??? Well, they wouldn't do it unless they cared.

Can't begin to tell you how many times I felt like a fool here. Even still do at times and most likely will again in the future.

Here's my learning curve. Finally got preflop down and why you play certain cards at certain points. So I didn't need the hand chart handy any longer. Then I worked on my flop game. Got my PFR up and AF moving. Next was working the Turn, looking for redraws, reading the board and actions of the players. Now I'm focusing on the River and value betting, etc. I can still use a lot of work but I've managed to get to 2/4. You'll get there too if you read, post, discuss and develop a thick skin. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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