2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

[captZEEbo1]

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Id check raise this to see how much UTG likes his hand, make it like 600.
If you lead, hell probably raise on that board and put u on the defensive.
If you CR that flop, he calls and u lead turn..hes most likely mucking his overpair.

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You think anyone is folding their overpairs on this board? I think that is a huge error in logic.

[Rotating Rabbit]

Personally, without a good read or table image as a tectonic plate, I only play on with position in situations typical like this. Any half decent villian will win this hand one way or another with or without the goods.

[KaneKungFu123]

this hand completely depends on your opponent. his image, your image, the speed of the game etc.

you are in a very marginal situation and need to make a read, if you have no read, then just fold.

[barongreenback]

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Id check raise this to see how much UTG likes his hand, make it like 600.
If you lead, hell probably raise on that board and put u on the defensive.
If you CR that flop, he calls and u lead turn..hes most likely mucking his overpair.

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You think anyone is folding their overpairs on this board? I think that is a huge error in logic.

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I agree. There's just too few hands for him to be afraid of and 22 or 66 will often slowplay.
In fact this causes problems with a check raise whatever he has because he could just decide you can't take any heat. The only way a check raise puts a reasonably tenacious opponent in difficulty is if he's worried about button.

[thabadguy]

After thinking about this hand, i agree that an overpair would prolly call the lead on turn. But i still think CR'ing that flop is correct. I apologize for my over aggression.

[spoohunter]

You are ahead more than 50% here. Call the flop, if he checks the turn, bet something like half pot that stops his 6 out draw.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I don't play anywhere near this high, but I think c/c flop, c/f turn can be a very good line. You snap off continuation bets, and most people won't fire two barrels with a worse hand. Often, people won't even fire two barrels with a better hand fearing a c/r and trying to manage pot size.

Similar hand from ML4L

[fsuplayer]

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this hand completely depends on your opponent. his image, your image, the speed of the game etc.

you are in a very marginal situation and need to make a read, if you have no read, then just fold.

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perfect.

there is no right answer to this hand.

sometimes i lead, CR, or even check call.

of course i fold a good amount of the time here too.

[spoohunter]

Not to be a nit, but you're in possition so "c/f" the turn makes no sense. Other than that I 100% agree with your post, including, what I assume you mean, to folding if he bets the turn.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Not to be a nit, but you're in possition so "c/f" the turn makes no sense. Other than that I 100% agree with your post, including, what I assume you mean, to folding if he bets the turn.

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Read it again, he called in the SB and check/folded the flop.