Online gambling in Indiana = Class D Felony ??

[wacki]

What is the best way to bitch to the politicians?

e-mail, phone?

[o0mr_bill0o]

looks like i was wrong. anyone know where we can find out who voted for this pile of shite? i know my representative relatively well, as she's a family friend, and if she voted for this thing i'm gonna have to give her an earfull.

[o0mr_bill0o]

okay, now i'm reading the bill. this doesn't apply to us. unless you're running an internet poker website from indiana. Note that everything referring to professional gambling says
"for profit". then you have to note the definition of "profit", which excludes "gain". In my reading of this bill, what we as online gamblers earn is "gain", and what the operator of the website earns is "profit".

[jrbick]

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What is the best way to bitch to the politicians?

e-mail, phone?

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I'd avoid email since it's easily avoided. Same with the phone. We need to organize as players and SERIOUSLY do something about this in EVERY state and in the Federal forum. I've voiced this in several other threads. This new development in IN may be what it takes.

I'm talking about petitions, public hearings, etc. And I don't mean just normal joe-shmoe players; I want authors from this publishing company to be a part of it since they are known as the "experts" in our field.

Mason Malmuth, David Sklansky, Ed Miller, Dan Harrington, Ray Zee, Ray B., Alan Schoonmaker, John Feeney, Lynne Loomis, Sylevester Suzuki, Dan Paymar, Donna Harris, and anyone else that I've forgotten and/or should be included in this list: HELP US CHANGE THE MIND OF THE GOVERNMENT! It is in YOUR best interest if you desire the "POKER MARKET" to remain as thriving as it is right now. THINK LONG TERM like you teach us to!

[o0mr_bill0o]

just noticed your location says b-town, for the time being at least - bloomington i presume? me too, when i'm not at school. do you, did you go to school here? drop me a PM or some such.

[KKbluff]

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Sec. 2.
(a) A person who knowingly or intentionally engages in gambling commits unlawful gambling.

(b) Except as provided in subsection (c), unlawful gambling is a Class B misdemeanor.

(c) An operator who knowingly or intentionally uses the Internet to engage in unlawful gambling:

(1) in Indiana; or

(2) with a person located in Indiana; commits a Class D felony.


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If I'm reading this correctly we as players are commiting "unlawful gambling" - Class B misdemeanor. Gambling operators are commiting a Class D Felony.

[Mike Haven]

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' "Gambling" means risking money ... for gain, contingent ... in part upon ... chance ... '


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Difficult to argue against.

[o0mr_bill0o]

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odds of them considering poker a game of skill?

BTW, sklasnky/mason better [censored] change his opinion on this [censored]. I don't want SSH screwing me in court.

"Gambling" means risking money or other property for gain, contingent in whole or in part upon lot, chance, or the operation of a gambling device; but it does not include participating in:

(1) bona fide contests of skill, speed, strength, or endurance in which awards are made only to entrants or the owners of entries; or

That has to include poker right?

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it seems that would mean a poker tourney is okay, but a ring game is not.

[ttw22]

So how bad is a class B misdemeanor, then? I wonder if gamblers get the same 30 day warning that operators get.

[gila]

I wouldnt worry much about a class b mis., think parking ticket.

However, this blows. Things seem to be heading in the wrong direction.