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06-29-2005, 01:11 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
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The Bible never says this. Even if it did, Zygote's answer has merit. No one can prove the age of the earth as certain unprovable assumptions are required. I personally believe the earth is much older than 6,000 years, and it could well be the 5 billion I believe science now assigns. But it could be much younger. The Bible doesn't state an age. [/ QUOTE ] This is true that the Bible never stats how old the earth is. I have noticed in this forum and in general public that people have the conception that the Bible says the earth is a certain age and similar thinking that the scientific community stats based on their evidence the earth is much older (5 billion or so years, ballpark figure). Therefore in general some people are mislead into the thinking that Bible is "wrong" when it comes accurately detailing the age of earth. This thinking is wrong; to my understanding the Biblical sources detail the creation of earth in the order that the earth was created before "day and night." Hence in theory the time before "day and night" was created cannot be translated into a hourly/weekly/monthly/yearly structure. There is no mention even of the earth even rotating or revolving around the sun. This time frame prior to the creation of day and night could basically be any amount, in terms of years. Sorry if some of this has been posted/discussed in this forum before, I am not too familiar with all the topics discussed in this forum. Also if this creates any confusion in terms to other discussions by OP in terms of fuzzy logic. I think people have been mislead to some generalization that there is in fact some sort of contradiction between science and biblical information. Taken mislead information and applying it to other areas of discuses can cause even more confusion. 
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#12
06-29-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
"to my understanding the Biblical sources detail the creation of earth in the order that the earth was created before "day and night." "
Oh Okay. The Bible doesn't assert the ridiculous assertion that the earth is 6000 years old. Sorry. But it does say the earth was created before it revolved around the sun which is almost as ridiculous.
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#13
06-29-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
""Oh Okay. The Bible doesn't assert the ridiculous assertion that the earth is 6000 years old. Sorry.""
hmmmm, yeah ""But it does say the earth was created before it revolved around the sun which is almost as ridiculous. "" Doesn't say either, could it be created at the same time?... without our modern time structure appling to this. The point, determining an age in relation to the frame of the creation of earth is rather diffucult to establish from Biblical sources. So concluding the Bible says the earth is 6000 years old is misleading. Neither what Biblical sources and the scientific community stat about the earth’s age are not "ridiculous", but to completely assume that they are completely both contradicting is.
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#14
06-29-2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
"Neither what Biblical sources and the scientific community stat about"
Though people sometimes talk about the "scientific community" just like it is any other community, it is important to rember that we are talking about most of the smartest people on earth. They start out being much smarter genetically than the average person, and after years of intense study the difference betweeen them and the average person (from the standpoint of who would more likely to be right about subjects that require deductive thought) is as least as large as the difference between an average person and a moderately retarded one.
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#15
06-29-2005, 02:36 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
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"Neither what Biblical sources and the scientific community stat about" Though people sometimes talk about the "scientific community" just like it is any other community, it is important to rember that we are talking about most of the smartest people on earth. They start out being much smarter genetically than the average person, and after years of intense study the difference betweeen them and the average person (from the standpoint of who would more likely to be right about subjects that require deductive thought) is as least as large as the difference between an average person and a moderately retarded one. [/ QUOTE ] So one "could" conclude from your/this "generalization" ... that lets say for "example"... these smartest people in the scientific community are average persons... then everyone else including those involved in studying (theory and religion/historical studies) would be ... at BEST moderately retarded. Is there a range difference between average person and likw retarded one for people within the theological group and the scientific group?
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#17
06-29-2005, 03:15 PM
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Re: Fuzzy logic
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So one "could" conclude from your/this "generalization" ... that lets say for "example"... these smartest people in the scientific community are average persons... then everyone else including those involved in studying (theory and religion/historical studies) would be ... at BEST moderately retarded. [/ QUOTE ] You are being so irrational, What christian/religious people don't understand is that unlike them science is not irrational, driven by emotions or blind faith. If the bible could be proven through objective science you wouldn't be arguing this point. When emotion begins to control science, everyone loses. You want so badly to believe what you read in the bible and what has been ingrained in you that you ignore facts. your overpowering emotions and blind faith don't stand the test of objective science, and you will never accept that fact.
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#18
06-29-2005, 03:25 PM
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Oh Okay. The Bible doesn't assert the ridiculous assertion that the earth is 6000 years old. [/ QUOTE ] Why will you never answer a science question. Your constant ridicule without explanation is somewhat suspect.
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