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Old 06-28-2005, 11:35 AM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

The "pros" are cleaning up because there are like 200 players who are considered to be a pro. When a tourney has 600 entries, 200 of which are full time poker players, it is pretty clear that one of these pros is usually going to win.
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Old 06-28-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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they've been practicing on stars hubble no limit hold em freeroll.

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This is the correct answer.
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Old 06-28-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

Are you sure it's not pokerstars.net? I hear A LOT of pros go there to practice...
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:03 PM
Mike Cuneo Mike Cuneo is offline
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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Are you sure it's not pokerstars.net? I hear A LOT of pros go there to practice...

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Yeah I've seen Barry Greenstein on there he usually does OK. Most people leave the table when Hellmuth sits though.
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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the pros are dominating this years wsop. there's been so many big name winners - chan, seidel, seif, cunningham, arieh, todd brunson, cloutier, greenstein...

what is going on? how are they able to fight through these huge fields? i thought everyone said it wouldn't happen like this and it would just be random amateurs taking the bracelets home. what have the pros figured out?

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Its the huge fields of dead money. Everybody talks about the negative aspect of that, but nobody's looked at the flip side of this. Sure, such large fields mean that there are plenty of mine fields that can take you out. It means lots of wild, unpredicable play. It means lots of unbluffable players.

But it also mean a lot of oportunities to get lots of money into the pot with an edge, sometimes with a really big edge. This means that while they may run into plenty of people who will gamboool it up and may get lucky and knock them out, the top players also have serious oportunities to acquire large amounts of chips. And in tournament play, large stacks equate to power and longevity.



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Old 06-28-2005, 01:54 PM
RicktheRuler RicktheRuler is offline
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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chan, seidel, seif, cunningham, arieh, todd brunson, cloutier, greenstein...


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Yes, why are the best players in the world doing well? Strange that they would be able to wade through a bunch of idiots in a tournament every now and then.

This question sucks.
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:58 PM
A-Baum A-Baum is offline
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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chan, seidel, seif, cunningham, arieh, todd brunson, cloutier, greenstein...


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Yes, why are the best players in the world doing well? Strange that they would be able to wade through a bunch of idiots in a tournament every now and then.

This question sucks.

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So does your attitude.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

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chan, seidel, seif, cunningham, arieh, todd brunson, cloutier, greenstein...


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Yes, why are the best players in the world doing well? Strange that they would be able to wade through a bunch of idiots in a tournament every now and then.

This question sucks.

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So does your attitude.

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With this as his avatar did you expect him to be cuddly and nice?

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Old 06-28-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

Many people predicted after the 2004 WSOP that the pros would adjust their collective games and do much better in 2005.
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: why are the pros cleaning up so much?

The pros lost so much last year that the "Fairness Policy" has shifted back into their favor.
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