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Old 06-26-2005, 06:18 PM
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this stat isnt really depressing for a yankee fan. its pretty meaningless. if you take a current .500 team you should be able to find a 'depressing' stat or two. a .380 team and you could find a few more.

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Nah, it's rather meaningful. This is a team that has grabbed up a lot of SP talent over the years, and when you are so bad when your offense doesn't show up, that demonstrates how badly this team's starters are doing.

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i suck at figuring this stuff out. if the league average winning % is .160 when scoring three or less (this cant be correct. a weighted average must be given to 0-3 runs scored), the team is .500 overall then what are the chances of a team going 0-24 over a given stretch when scoring three or less? maybe i can post this in probability.

jack- can you help me with some stats. like how much more often teams land on zero runs as opposed to 3.
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Old 06-26-2005, 09:52 PM
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i want to figure this out
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:30 PM
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They just said it on ESPN. Seems the Mets have won 8 games this year scoring 3 runs or less. Wheels falling off the wagon in the 7th for the yanks.
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:42 PM
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no i want to figure out the statistical possibilty that it happens.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:13 AM
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Well, it isn't .322. You'd have to figure out how many times they've scored each (0, 1, 2, and 3) and find out their expected won-loss. It's probably somewhere around 5 or 6 games under projection... which isn't hard to do, especially because these games are likely close (see: White Sox and Nats playing way above projeciton in 1 run games).
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:19 AM
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no i want to figure out the statistical possibilty that it happens.

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Well, it isn't .322. You'd have to figure out how many times they've scored each (0, 1, 2, and 3) and find out their expected won-loss. It's probably somewhere around 5 or 6 games under projection... which isn't hard to do, especially because these games are likely close (see: White Sox and Nats playing way above projeciton in 1 run games).

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too much work. if my intuition serves me correctly, the 'stat' is just a statistical abberation and doesnt really mean anything (considering thier overall record of course)
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:32 AM
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Well, it isn't .322. You'd have to figure out how many times they've scored each (0, 1, 2, and 3) and find out their expected won-loss. It's probably somewhere around 5 or 6 games under projection... which isn't hard to do, especially because these games are likely close (see: White Sox and Nats playing way above projeciton in 1 run games).

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5.38 games to be exact.

However, if you factor in the fact that the Yanks have allowed 0 runs 5 times, 1 run 3 times, and 2 runs 8 times, then you get adjusted WPCT's of
0 runs - .000
1 run - .0667
2 runs - .1067
3 runs - .2133

which projects to just 3.37 wins for their 25 games with 3 or fewer runs.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:06 AM
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seems amazing to me that lineup would be held to 3 runs or less 25 times already this year. and you'd think they'd win a 3-1 game or something.
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Old 07-04-2005, 11:58 PM
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Assuming that a team has a .160 probability of winning when scoring 3 runs or less, then the probability of them undergoing an 0 for 24 streak is 1/65.66.
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:59 PM
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The depressing stat streak finally ended at 26 with the Yanks 1-0 victory a few days ago.
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