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Re: anyone let this one go?
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I would definitely play this here, especially because he can raise the SB if he flops a good hand. [/ QUOTE ] The equity for J5s is just so small that flopping a "good hand" won't happen often enough to make calling profitable. Getting caught with action action on a lone 4th nut flush draw is also bad news as drawing hands prefer very passive play. |
#12
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Re: anyone let this one go?
You totally missed the whole odds thing I put up. 9-1! It's huge. What sort of overlay do you need here to play this? If you flop a good hand, you are in great position to build a big pot. Don't assume another flush draw is out PF either.
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#13
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Re: anyone let this one go?
I play hands like this from the BB against a PF raise and show a small profit in such situations. 9:1 is about what I'm looking for to kick in the call here.
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#14
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Re: anyone let this one go?
The turn card counterfeited you, and you have the correct odds to peel one off, since it appears your 4 outs are all live. But that's the last dime I'm putting in this pot without improvement. I hate advocating a fold for a single river bet in a big pot, but I really don't think you're good 1 in 16 here, unless SB is a real LAG.
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#15
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Re: anyone let this one go?
I live for pot odds and Howard Lederer is my poker hero, I did not overlook the 9:1 odds given extended by the pot.
Personally, I don't think there much value in ever playing J5s - but if UTG raised and 7 or 8 cold called I can't imagine I'd fold getting 17:1. |
#16
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Re: anyone let this one go?
Looks like you were counterfitted on the turn....however, you should call down.
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#17
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Re: anyone let this one go?
I used to not call in situations like this and it used to be a leak in my game. Getting 9-1 you need to make this call. This was exactly the flop I was looking for and made the guys with Aces pay. But making this call you must beable to let go on the flop if it appears you are dominated (or counterfeited, which I couldn't do).
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