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Old 06-22-2005, 03:51 PM
Bluff Daddy Bluff Daddy is offline
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That was part of my question. I have posted hand histories here before that end in a bad beat. And all they do is get flamed.

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well what do you want someone to tell you, dont get sucked out on?
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
The Venetian The Venetian is offline
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I would make the argument that if you're not below 50% on showdowns, you're not being aggressive enough. The hands that can call your all-ins and raises are going to be higher quality than the ones you'd raise and push with.

Over my last couple thousand SNG's, 4-handed, when I raise first in and the hand goes to showdown, I win about 43% of the time. I assume these are the types of situations you're worried about.

For the month of June, I'm running 31% in this spot so far, which is beyond awful. Knowing this, however, is the only thing keeping me sane right now.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
JJKillian JJKillian is offline
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yes............and my sessions are generally 8 hours at a time without shutting down the app. At the end of all 4 days I was below 50%.

Most days are around 5k hands played. So I see what your getting at, but it isn't like one day of 200 hands played was 45% and a 5k day was 58% then two more 200 hand days at 30% so I avg them out incorrectly to x%. All days are all within a 4k to 5.5k hands played range.

It is also a very rough, at best, stat monitor. The thing is buggy I think. It doesn't always update correctly from what I have seen. But what I was getting at is with 200 sngs and that many hands played (I play mtts as well). It is usually x amt now out of the blue it is x amt. I was worried that I am truly making mistakes and it isn't just a dip in variance.

Basically I think what this is, I thought 200 sngs played was enough to be stastically something, whereas after getting feedback from here, it isn't.

JJ
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:54 PM
JJKillian JJKillian is offline
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see this is what I mean.

No I would rather someone say, hey you pushed a/8s here incorrectly bacause..........instead of stop your crying your a/8 fell to a/4.

JJ
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:56 PM
RicktheRuler RicktheRuler is offline
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Given this information, I can with 99% confidence tell you that your problem is one of 3 scenarios.

1. You've been getting it in with the worst of it and you are not playing well.

2. You are getting it in with the best of it and been getting unlucky.

3. A mixture of 2 and 3.

I hope this helps.

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Whats three again? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
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Given this information, I can with 99% confidence tell you that your problem is one of 3 scenarios.

1. You've been getting it in with the worst of it and you are not playing well.

2. You are getting it in with the best of it and been getting unlucky.

3. A mixture of 2 and 3.

I hope this helps.

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Whats three again? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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heh. whoops.
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:02 PM
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Whats three again?

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Spoil-sport [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]Can't you tell when somebody is busy being Pooh-Bah [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
JJKillian JJKillian is offline
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I think my short handed pushing rate is about the same standards as generally "accepted" here. Now I will push with any 2 if I am going to lose fold equity to the blind coming around, which I believe is pretty standard here as well. And will be a tad more aggressive with a large stack. Which I also believe is very standard.

Now along those lines of thinking I will reverse the thought process out for my calling standards out of the bb, IF......and I mean ONLY IF I think the guy has some skills, and is an aggressive player.

I like the point you make though about, maybe you should be below 50%. Now my question to that is, do you get either the bb or sb and bb to fold more than 50% of the time from either the button or sb, respectively? Then also along those lines, I would imagine as the lvl of skill either goes up or down that percentage changes. I would think calling standards go up as the lvl goes up. I would actually think for just as an example the 50 games is of avg standards and it goes lower as you go down or up. I could very possibly be wrong here though............thoughts?

JJ
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
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Ive actually never looked at my showdown %. I have no idea what it is and I think I don't care either.
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:05 PM
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Whats three again?

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Spoil-sport [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]Can't you tell when somebody is busy being Pooh-Bah [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I think this was supposed to be a kyro pwning, but I didn't get it. So I'm not sure.
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