Is it safe to say I am a loosing player?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

3500 hands is but a grain of sand in the sahara.

[chipstacks]

I was down $350 at .5/1 at one point when I started playing pokers seriously.

Don't get discouraged, I would suggest playing micro-limits at PokerStars to solidify your game and your confidence. There are much better players at .5/1 then .05/.10 so it's probably not the best place to start out.

You can learn a ton of stuff from books, but you need first hand experience to find out what concepts you are actually using from the books and what you are unknowingly neglecting.

You shouldn't learn from short-term results, but long-term results will tell you if you are making the right decisions. I was a former micro-limit player who successfully made the transition to .5/1, don't rush it.

[LetYouDown]

You're both loosers.

[AKQJ10]

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You're both loosers.

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That's because they play so lose at the poker table.

[McNeese72]

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You're both loosers.

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But I'm trying to play tighter! Honestly! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[pzhon]

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Started playing seriously June 1 at .5/1 and my stats are as follows:

Losses - $65
Sessions - 10 of which 2 winning, 7 loosing and 1 even
Hands - approx 3500 (no pokertracker, tracked manually)
BB/100 - -1.89 (I think my math is right)

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After 3500 hands your standard deviation should be about 90 BB = $90. About 1 time in 6, you should be $90 below normal. About 1 time in 40, you should be $180 below normal. You should not rule out the possibility that you are not a loser.

On the other hand, the $0.50-$1 game is really soft, and a good player should win a lot in it. While you might be a break-even player, your results are strong evidence that you are not a good player yet.

That's good, though. It would be a shame if you could figure out the game in a couple of weeks.

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So far I am finding that 95% of my decisions are fairly easy and it's the other 5% that make someone a good player.

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Actually, I bet you are getting many of those "easy" decisions wrong. As you learn more, you should rethink many situations you now call easy.

[celiboy]

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1. 24% vpip IS too loose, i believe 18-20% is a good range for a starter.

2. You've been playing for 2 weeks, the amount of knowledge I had in my first two weeks compared to my now 4 months is enormous, i wouldve killed for a -1.89BB then.

3. Move to party or stars

4. Do your homework...coming to this site is an excellent place to begin.

5. STOP SPELLING "LOSE" WITH TWO "O"s!!!
sorry, just a pet peeve and it seems like everybody on here does it.

6. Take my advise with a grain of salt cuz im a n00b too. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I am seeing 24% of the flops from all positions, so this would probably be a 18 or 19% VPIP. Absolute is 9 handed so perhaps this is still a bit too high

[AKQJ10]

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After 3500 hands your standard deviation should be about 90 BB = $90. About 1 time in 6, you should be $90 below normal. About 1 time in 40, you should be $180 below normal.

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Can you help me understand how you got these numbers? I'm somewhat familiar with the normal distribution, such as one would learn about it in a basic college stats class, so you don't need to go back and define SD/sigma or mean/EV/mu or anything. I'm just curious how the 3500 hand number plays in.

TIA.

[pzhon]

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After 3500 hands your standard deviation should be about 90 BB = $90. About 1 time in 6, you should be $90 below normal. About 1 time in 40, you should be $180 below normal.

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Can you help me understand how you got these numbers? ... I'm just curious how the 3500 hand number plays in.


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With a standard deviation of about 15 BB/100, the standard deviation after n*100 hands is about squareroot(n)*15 BB. Sqrt(35)~6, and 6*15 = 90.

[Grinder]

You have to realize that a $10 loosing streak is nothing when you leave the table +$30. Best advise I can give is that focus on your game and quit trying to berate everyone else. it is very juvenile