Stars vs. Party...is the gap closing?

[Bob L]

Right now I counted at 30-60 holdem -30 tables at party going (17 9-10 handed) and stars has 3 (2 tables 9-10 handed).Party has 27 15-30 tables and stars has 1 .And I will stop counting other limits right from there becuase there is no comparison.Without even looking I'm sure that stars has much much more tournies going than party -either that or play money.its 12:28 pacific right now.

[nsdjoe]

Stars offers very small stakes, right? Like .02/.04? Maybe that's where the balance of players are hanging out.

[Bob L]

Oh -I forgot to count the bad beat 15-30 s at party -ehter way you get my point.

[MicroBob]

right.

stars offers the nano-limit games which many players hang out at (virtually similar to play-money really).
these don't generate any rake for Stars of course.


if they get a similar number of tourney players as party then I think party is still beating them here since they charge a higher rake generally (including the fact that Stars does not charge an extra-rake in their re-buy and add-on tourneys while party does).

On the ring-games, party rakes a little bit more at the levels where it matters....and, as mentioned, stars actually spreads tables where essentially there is no rake anyway.


So party is indeed yanking in the profits.
But I STILL think party is closing the gap.


I agree that their TV ads are VERY helpful.
Getting rid of that old Raymer/Moneymaker standing back-to-back ad and running the classier one's with them talking about their experiences was a good move.


I still see a lot of the partypoker ads on the tube too though.


A 3rd Pokerstars WSOP champion would be something Stars could REALLY push if they were to get so lucky.

[TemetNosce]

"A 3rd Pokerstars WSOP champion would be something Stars could REALLY push if they were to get so lucky. "

With the number of folks in the Big One from Stars, you got to like their chances for a 3-peat.

[sfwusc]

Star's also without a doubt is going to send on avgerage bette player to the WSOP.

I will play there with a bonus, but I need a bonus. Hint to Poker Stars. I still would be a profitable player for them, since I play 2/4 six max there.

-SFWUSC

[grimel]

That would be a pure magical thing for Stars! With the ability to see patterns where they don't exist, 1.3 bajillion new players for PS by the end of the month.

[TylerD]

With the WSOP coming up, the EPT being shown on terrestrial TV (sponsored by Stars) and their $350K guranteed being upped to $500K I can only see Stars getting stronger.

[greygoo]

According to pokerpulse.com, PS is really close to PP in terms of tourney players (MTT+SnG), but there are about 3 to 4 times more ring games/players on PP. Plus PP games still feel much softer to me. I love PS, but no rakeback is a problem...

[highlife]

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According to pokerpulse.com, PS is really close to PP in terms of tourney players (MTT+SnG), but there are about 3 to 4 times more ring games/players on PP. Plus PP games still feel much softer to me. I love PS, but no rakeback is a problem...

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no rakeback sucks major, also they need to improve the quality and quantity of fish in the middle limit games.