Give them another chance to fold?

[Fishlips_Jones]

There's got to be a better way.

If you play well enough to get all your chips in as an 80% favotite, and you do that the 6-8 times to get into the money; then you will only make the money about 21% of the time. 21% seems low to me, but then I have not seen any numbers on how often the greats make it into the money.

Fishlips

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There's got to be a better way.

If you play well enough to get all your chips in as an 80% favotite, and you do that the 6-8 times to get into the money; then you will only make the money about 21% of the time. 21% seems low to me, but then I have not seen any numbers on how often the greats make it into the money.

Fishlips

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Well, part of it is that between all of the ones you are winning and your picking up pots along the way and other such things, you can survive if you get sucked out on once or twice, which is important, because you will.

[Big_Jim]

In the example you give, I think UTG+1 pushes on that flop, and now you're less of a favorite than you were before the flop.

If he is going to call off almost all of his chips with AQ, then you should push with AA or KK every single time after he raises, you don't WANT him to be able to get off the hand. What about the times when he would call with TT (which I assume this player would) and a J or a Q hits the board? What about the times he's raising with a suited connector and busts you with a lucky flop because you didn't push him off of it? What about the times he raises with AQ and he hits his A on the flop?

If you can get your money in as a 2-1 favorite. Do it. Not pushing here against this player is insanity.

[adanthar]

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The latest situation occurred in the middle of a Party freefoll

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It's a freeroll. You're not going to get anyone to fold by definition.

Also, not that the math is right (because you can lose via suckout and still have chips as long as you're a big stack), but if it was, a 21% chance to make the money as a gigantic stack in a tournament that pays 10% of the field is a very good thing.

[EvanCharuk]

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Perhaps if I just called his preflop raise, and then moved in on the flop, he would have released.


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In a Party freeroll? I would find it highly unlikely most players in the Party freeroll would ever fold to this flop with two clubs.