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Old 06-13-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

If I'm playing heads-up and a guy is mini-raising virtually every hand, I just push a couple times with anything that is over 50% versus a random hand. That'll slow him down, plus you've picked up some extra chips.

If he calls and you lose, thems the breaks. Sometimes you'll push and he'll actually have something. You can't let him just run you over though.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

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This is really not that hard, especially early on. If he really is raising 100% of the time, and it's only a minraise, all he's done is doubled the stakes for each hand. You still have all the power in this situation.

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This is what I do as well. I'm just betting for value given my position. I'm more likely to win given my position heads up. You're in a favourable position and know you're going to win most of the time if you can read your opponent well.

I would also do this if I had bigger stack than my opponent. It's kind of saying, "This means more to you, than it does to me".

In my opinion, if you're waiting for that one big hand to push, you're going to lose most of the time. If you let me take your blinds, then all of a sudden you push all in, it doesn't take a genius to know you've finally caught something and are making a stand. I'll fold and min-raise you again next hand.


What you can do is, min-raise yourself, be a bit more aggressive. You're letting him take control of the pace of the game. Call and see the flop with any 2 cards. Be a bit more aggressive after the flop. You're a big man and "you're not going to be pushed around".
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:43 PM
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Call and see the flop with any 2 cards. Be a bit more aggressive after the flop. You're a big man and "you're not going to be pushed around".

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I really don't like calling. Pushing any two is better than just calling IMO. The vast majority of the time, an any two push is causing this guy to fold and you've sent the message to him to slow down. Calling is really bad IMO, especially at the high blinds you're usually at.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

I've tried pushing over the top of a min-raise many times and what usually happens is:

1. the opponent just folds
2. he finally calls and holds a monster

I don't think a re-raise push is the greatest strategy to use early in a HU tourney. The blinds are just too small. It's not worth playing "big man" over the miniscule blinds and risking your whole chip stack.

The great thing about the min-raise every hand strategy is that the person using it can have any two, ranging from 72 to AA and there's no way to tell.

What do you guys think about a min re-raise every hand as a counter?
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

I thought that you were referring to the last two in a 10 man SNG, in which case the mini-raiser folding to your push is a great result.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

The idea behind it (or at least, the idea behind me doing it) is not that you're raising the stakes (almost) or that you're putting your opponent on the defensive, it's that you're raising the stakes WHEN YOU'RE IN POSITION..The effect of which cannot be overstated. Imagine playing a HU match where the blinds are 2/4 when you're on the button and 1/2 when you're not. You'd have to suck big time to be a loser in that game.

Min raising back every hand is counter-productive, it's playing into the original raisers hand..Now we're playing 3/6 when he's on the button!
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: HU: Defense against min-raise every hand

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In a HU tourney, what is your approach/defense against an opponent who min-raises every hand on the button?

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How many blinds are in play? What are the relative stack sizes? What is the blind structure?
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:23 PM
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I really don't like calling. Pushing any two is better than just calling IMO. The vast majority of the time, an any two push is causing this guy to fold and you've sent the message to him to slow down. Calling is really bad IMO, especially at the high blinds you're usually at.

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I don't like the push. This is easy to overcome if you're the raiser. If this was me, I'd continue raise, but not as often, but I'd still do it. If my opponent starts pushing all in every other hand, that's a favourable position. I'm risking 1 BB for any 2 cards, he's risking his whole stack with any 2 cards. All ins will work everytime but once.
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:35 PM
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I don't like the push. This is easy to overcome if you're the raiser. If this was me, I'd continue raise, but not as often, but I'd still do it. If my opponent starts pushing all in every other hand, that's a favourable position. I'm risking 1 BB for any 2 cards, he's risking his whole stack with any 2 cards. All ins will work everytime but once.

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Say we're heads up in level 6. We start with t4000 each. You raise my blind to t600. I push, you fold. Now, I'm at t4600 and you're at t3400. I push the next hand, you fold. I'm at t4900, you're at t3100. You say you'll continue mini-raising. Okay, now you mini-raise again, I push, you fold. Now I'm at t5500 and you're at t2500.

Mini-raising with the idea that you'll fold to a push without premium cards is a losing strategy IMO. You'd be better off just pushing every hand from the button (which really is not that bad a strategy at high blind levels). Now when I have over 2:1 on you, I might be more selective and not let you double up easily. But I'm still pushing into you very often when I'm on the button. Mini-raising just twice in level 6 and then folding to an all-in leaks huge amounts of chips.
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:39 PM
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Min raising back every hand is counter-productive, it's playing into the original raisers hand..Now we're playing 3/6 when he's on the button!

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Very good point!
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