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Old 06-12-2005, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Your action on this early hand from the CO?

Actually, I push here sometimes, but I think that it's when I'm tilty.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:04 AM
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I think you can even take AK out of there most of the time. AK really wants to push or just call.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:04 AM
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I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ.

My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one...

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Don't forget some people Play AQs/KQs like they are premiums. QQ has a huge edge against these hands, while JJ is still a coinflip advantage. It makes sense to treat QQ as a stronger hand (which it is)
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:22 AM
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I usually push QQ and fold JJ here but if villian has AK the majority of the time why would I fold JJ and call with QQ? I am still losing to AA/KK and the same coinflip vs AK than I am with JJ.

My strategy makes no sense does it? Need some help with this one...

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Don't forget some people Play AQs/KQs like they are premiums. QQ has a huge edge against these hands, while JJ is still a coinflip advantage. It makes sense to treat QQ as a stronger hand (which it is)

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Yeah, I wouldn't be posting this hand if I had QQ. I would have happily pushed preflop and accepted the results with full confidence that I made the right play.

To some other posters who responded to my post about the range of hands: Even though the raise is at the 'suspicious' level there are still a serious amount of donks at the $50s. But I've also run into a couple of clever players who I believe will raise a medium amount in the hopes of projecting strength. Except in specific bubble situations, JJ is still likely to be a favorite here regardless of the size of the reraise.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:44 AM
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btw I really hate to get all my money in with JJ so early, it's just this spot I might do it... btw I almost never raise to a full 100 preflop, but ok thats not too relevant.

But okay, if you raise to like 80 and the guy makes it 400....I feel like its less likely he has AA or KK than if you raise to 100 and he makes it 400. That's just a gut feeling somehow.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:46 AM
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btw I really hate to get all my money in with JJ so early, it's just this spot I might do it... btw I almost never raise to a full 100 preflop, but ok thats not too relevant.

But okay, if you raise to like 80 and the guy makes it 400....I feel like its less likely he has AA or KK than if you raise to 100 and he makes it 400. That's just a gut feeling somehow.

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Old 06-12-2005, 02:46 AM
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btw I really hate to get all my money in with JJ so early, it's just this spot I might do it... btw I almost never raise to a full 100 preflop, but ok thats not too relevant.

But okay, if you raise to like 80 and the guy makes it 400....I feel like its less likely he has AA or KK than if you raise to 100 and he makes it 400. That's just a gut feeling somehow.

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Old 06-12-2005, 02:48 AM
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:50 AM
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Old 06-12-2005, 09:14 AM
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I maybe wrong, but I think the size of his raise is very worrisome. I'd much rather call a push. I fold here. (unless villian and I know eachother or something)

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Agreed. I voted fold. Reluctantly obviously. I would be happier calling a push (screams AK or smaller PP from a guy thinking you were just making a position raise).

The comment about some players making this raise with junk (to make it appear to be a monster) is interesting, but I think those guys are few and far between. I also agree with those who said that if they had queens, they're pushing over the top of the re-raise. Good fold IMO.
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