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#11
06-12-2005, 02:07 PM
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Re: $15-$30 hand from the Taj Mahal
If you don't know what to do here then why did you raise on the flop?
The board pairing kind of froze me like a proverbial deer in the headlights. I did plan on betting just about any other card. 
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#12
06-12-2005, 03:01 PM
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Re: $15-$30 hand from the Taj Mahal
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First tell us why you raised. See TT's response. He summed up my reasoning behind the raise. I thought I could knock the initial raiser off his AK the bb calling put a monkey wrench into my plan. When are you coming down here? The Taj now has $65 sit and goes. We can donk around in them one Saturday. [/ QUOTE ] BB's monkey wrench says "I have a Ten, and I want to know immediately if the pre-flop raiser is good without investing any more chips". The pre-flop raiser calling tells you he needs to improve and is willing to call it down. I think the 9 is about the best card you can see on the turn, if you raise it here you will take down the pot more than 50% of the time. If not you just bought yourself a free showdown. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] PS: Bunky's right... I like to use longer sentences though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#14
06-12-2005, 03:47 PM
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Very poorly played.
Your call preflop allowed the BB in (even though he would have called anyway, still a tactical error). You should 3-bet PF here, every time.
Then, bet the flop. If they call, bet the turn and fold to a check-raise, since the paired turn card does not help your opponents (if it did, I would have expected some sort of bet or check-raise on the flop). Check on the river if unimproved. For one extra small bet, you had a very good chance to take the pot on the turn, even without the best hand. If your not going to 3-bet PF here, you might as well muck, IMO. TSP
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#15
06-12-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: Very poorly played.
awfully played. I'd really be interested in hearing why you think betting the river after checking the turn is a good play. Did you think it was a bluff? Classic situation where no worse hand will call and no better hand will fold.
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#16
06-12-2005, 04:29 PM
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Re: Very poorly played.
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Your call preflop allowed the BB in (even though he would have called anyway, still a tactical error). You should 3-bet PF here, every time. Then, bet the flop. If they call, bet the turn and fold to a check-raise, since the paired turn card does not help your opponents (if it did, I would have expected some sort of bet or check-raise on the flop). Check on the river if unimproved. For one extra small bet, you had a very good chance to take the pot on the turn, even without the best hand. If your not going to 3-bet PF here, you might as well muck, IMO. TSP [/ QUOTE ] I have to agree with TSP here, as I really don't like calling a raise with AQ - dump it if you have some huge read on the raiser, but here you 3-bet... Hindsight and all, but I think it gives you many more (better) options. Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com
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#17
06-12-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: $15-$30 hand from the Taj Mahal
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The board pairing kind of froze me like a proverbial deer in the headlights. I did plan on betting just about any other card. [/ QUOTE ] The board pairing should be a good card for your hand the way you played it. Betting the river is bad after checking the turn because the turn card was not scary.
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#19
06-15-2005, 05:31 AM
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Re: $15-$30 hand from the Taj Mahal
"I thought I could knock the initial raiser off his AK the bb calling put a monkey wrench into my plan."
If you thought the intial raiser had AK then why did you.........
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#20
06-15-2005, 05:57 AM
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Re: Very poorly played.
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Classic situation where no worse hand will call and no better hand will fold. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe. With 2 other players I'm checking behind with Ace high here unimproved. I check behind on the turn, too.
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