Very Standard Fold - Page 2

astarck · #11 06-09-2005, 06:26 PM

Yeah, it is easy to see why now. Just took that one key phrase.

astarck · #12 06-09-2005, 06:28 PM

I realize this is 3 posts in a row...but oh well.

What if you had a good hand?

What if you weren't big stack?

BDarch · #13 06-09-2005, 06:30 PM

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I realize this is 3 posts in a row...but oh well.

What if you had a good hand?

What if you weren't big stack?

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you fold with no matter what hand you have and if you had a smaller stack you would call.

J-Lo · #14 06-09-2005, 06:31 PM

your hand doesn't matter, it's a call not matter what or fold no matter what kind of scenario for only 1 more chip.

If you are one of the medium stacks, it's an easy call, because your goal is to get ITM now, AND THEN start gambling for 1st. RIGHT GUYS?

adanthar · #15 06-09-2005, 06:31 PM

To make this fold I would have to know for sure that UTG and MP were both not willing to spite call with AT. They have a few too many chips and you have a few too little to really do this comfortably without that.

But no, nobody folds this in most games regardless, even when they really should.

johnnybeef · #16 06-09-2005, 06:31 PM

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I never see people make this fold in a 200 sng.

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be thankful....in over 1500 sngs (granted they were all at the 33s and below) i have only seen one person besides myself play the bubble properly and that was 2+2er maulik.

Freudian · #17 06-09-2005, 06:31 PM

I never fold a good hand here, but I will fold a very poor one.

I think people are often wanting to get fancy here, believing they can make much more money by going after the other two stacks than they make by knocking out the SB for his 500 chips+your 250. The problem is this: the two other stacks aren't going to fold everything when they have 4xBB. So suddenly after pushing any two into the medium stacks and have them call with KJ to beat you (and a call is even more likely by you screaming out you want to keep the bubble alive by making an absurd fold), you are down to 3k while fourhanded instead of being ITM with 60% of the chips.

durron597 · #18 06-09-2005, 06:34 PM

Jason, this is not exactly the same situation, but what do you think of the check behind on the river here? (For similar reasons). 14 players, 3 pay, 2+2 Atlantic Trout SnG. The SB is left with less than 6 BB.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t9185)
Button (t2275)
SB (t3025)
BB (t2070)
UTG (t4445)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t450, Hero calls t450, 1 fold, SB calls t375, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1500) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t300, UTG folds, Hero raises to t1000, SB calls t700.

Turn: (t3500) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t700, SB calls t700.

River: (t4900) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t4900

FieryJustice · #19 06-09-2005, 06:34 PM

I wish you wouldnt post such things.

raptor517 · #20 06-09-2005, 06:38 PM

quit making people better. however, an argument can be made about this situation, even though you are making the play to keep pwning the bubble. it may not be worth sacrificing the 751 chips in the pot for that extra bubble edge if the players you are up against dont play a correct calling game on the bubble. i think its very close here, and an argument can be made either way. holla