2/4 party hand

[MRBAA]

On the turn, you don't beat JJ anymore.

[Nyack]

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On the turn, you don't beat JJ anymore.

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I was thinking about the flop, by raising we lose lots to AA and KK, tie with AK and fold out TT-QQ. I know the turn this time changes things but it wont happen very often.

Would it be wrong to call the flop?

[MRBAA]

That would be a good play, I think, as you're either way ahead or way behind his most likely capping hands (or tied with AK).

I think it might be better against an utg capper to just smooth call all the way, tossing in a bet if he checks anywhere.

The drawback is that you probably lose a bet by not raising against the (many) bad players at 2-4 who would cap with AQ, AJ, AT, 99, 88, 77, KQs...and so on.

[jba]

I guess I want to throw another raise in somewhere. are we that convinced villain has a set??

[deception5]

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AA and KK - Lose.
QQ, JJ and TT - Most players will fold the turn unimproved.
AK - Tie.

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Only thing about this is that even giving the capper that range, the number of combinations are not equal:

Lose:
AA - 1 combination
KK - 1 combination

Tie:
AK - 4 combinations

Win:
QQ - 6 combinations
JJ - 6 combinations
TT - 6 combinations

So at least before the turn I would be thinking of how I'm going to win the most money on this hand.

[meep_42]

I'm liking a slower approach on the flop. You lost the pot-padder, leaving you with only the capper.

You are almost certainly a 90% favorite or drawing almost dead.

Raising folds the hands you're ahead of... I'm looking to pump it up somewhere here, though, probably the turn in case he gets cold feet on the river.

-d

[deception5]

Actually I'm wondering if I was utg here as I think I played a hand just like this yesterday where I split with another AK.

[dreq]

nope he had a set