KK in the SB

[citanul]

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what hands could he have called the flop bet for a big chunk of his stack with and then decide that he doesn't want to play that same hand for the rest of his stack, trying to triple up?

citanul

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when he called the flop bet, he might have had any pair, Ax, QJ, JT, I put him on a wide range.

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so you put him on a super wide range of hands on the flop, for some reason or the other, and also knew him well enough to know that he would bluff often on the turn? this is all very unlikely. it's not that likely that your opposition (at whatever level this is, you didn't say anything) is so sophisticated, and that you possibly have shown them that you play so poorly previously, that they're going to be taking a card off for 1/4 of their stack on the flop with the intention of taking the pot away from you with garbage if you check on the turn. the guy most likely has SOMETHING here, and he's getting like 3/1 on the turn. just tapping him should be more than adequate. if you really wanted to, you could bet like 2/3 of his stack.

citanul

[schwza]

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Put him all in =\

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BB has 460 left, if I push he could easily fold this hand since he is not pot committed, is this the best move?

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villain has 360 left. the t710 he starts with is before he posts the BB. if he had 460 i'd be more inclined to check.

[octaveshift]

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Put him all in =\

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BB has 460 left, if I push he could easily fold this hand since he is not pot committed, is this the best move?

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Uhhh, do you expect a definitive answer here?

He's your opponent. What do you think the right play is?

[Wes ManTooth]

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Uhhh, do you expect a definitive answer here?

He's your opponent. What do you think the right play is?

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I am not expecting a definitive answer, just wanted some opinions.

In this situation I think the right play is to check. I thought I showed signs of weakness throughout this hand that would convince him to push in an attempt to steal this pot.

[schwza]

argument to push: villain will call any 6 if you push now. if it goes check-check and a big card hits, he may fold the river. same for a hand like 33. villain also may call with A high now when he would not once he sees he missed his A.

argument to check: villain will push most hands that he would call with, and he might have called with overs and will now try a desperation steal.

i think it's more likely that you'll let him make a good fold than you'll miss a chance to catch a bluff. push.

[jgunnip]

I play this a lot like you did. On the turn I'll bet 1/3-1/2 his my opponents stack in this situation. If he has a hand that he'd call an all-in with, he'll probably just push over you anyway. He'll also on some occasions try to bluff you out of the pot with a few more hands. If he doesn't have a hand that he likes that much he's not calling your push any way. If he just calls then you can still push you chips in on the river.

[Wes ManTooth]

I actually played this hand as follows,

I waited, checked, BB pushed I called, he had Q9d and was drawing dead.

Like I mentioned earlier I showed signs of weakness throughout this hand and with this I thought it may convince villain to push in an attempt to steal this pot.

I know many of you most likely will not like this play.
Thanks for all your remarks and opinions, more comments are welcomed

[lastchance]

So BB sucks at poker. To maximize EV, I definitely bet a bit more on the flop, and I push the turn.

[tomdemaine]

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I actually played this hand as follows,

Hey I induced a bluff look at me

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[Wes ManTooth]

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