Got to love it when this happens

[set57hike]

On a low stakes table, a check is just throwing money away. These people love to see cards and probably won't believe you have trips anyway, let alone quads. Plus, it is incredibly suspicious when a paired door card *doesn't* get a bet.

In my experience, slow play at a low stakes table loses money.

[vintage_sara]

ALWAYS IS VERY STRONG. Haven't had it come up much, unfortuntately. But, I hope to find a time when I can go to war with someone!

[bigredlemon]

capping 3rd with a J door card and then checking after pairing that J? That's got to be showing more strength than doublebetting 4th.

[dandy_don]

Good post.


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ALWAYS check 4th when you start rolled up and make quads.

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Let's reverse the roles of this scenario and say that I'm in Seat 8 and have A's, and the two exposed J's "check" on 4th and does not try to get me to fold my A. Doesn't the "check" and "call" by the J's in this situation scream trips even on the low limit tables? (Based upon a limited info on the player).

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4th Street - (20.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 3 K___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K 5___calls
Hero: x x J J___ check ___ calls
Seat 8: A x xx A 7___bet

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I would like to believe that I'd fling a bet (value bet) with A's and if the J's call, it's "proceed with caution" for me, which is not what the J's want in this situation.

I fold if one of the K's bet before me and watch the crash about to occur even with the other exposed K, correct?

What if I had a completely hidden "A's up" on 4th (neither the other A or the other paired card is exposed) and this same scenario occurs? Do you play it any different? Does it matter if it's completely hidden?

[bigredlemon]

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ALWAYS check 4th when you start rolled up and make quads.

[/ QUOTE ]come to think of it, I kind of agree with you.

You're hoping that villain makes two pair or trips, or give other people odds to draw to their straights and flushes. This also gives some them some doubt about whether you were overplaying your hand and now slowplaying down after realizing that you are behind.

[Griff]

Thanks for all of your input. There doesn't seem to be a clear answer as to the absolute best play on 4th. Your thoughts did give me some things to think about.