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Old 06-06-2005, 02:03 PM
dmk dmk is offline
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

let me ask this:

if you won this hand (had a club not fallen), would you have posted it?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

Maybe.

Your point is?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

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Maybe.

Your point is?

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Why don't you just be honest and say "no". My point is that if you won the hand you wouldn't have had a second thought about the way you played it. You're only posting the hand because you lost. You shouldn't be worried about the results of the hand.

If you want actual conversation about the hand, post it like this:

I limp w/ 22, 4 ppl see the flop. Flop comes Q42 w/ 2 clubs. Guy bets, I raise to 1200, guy pushes, I call. Thoughts?


There is no reason to include what came on the turn/river and who won the hand because it doesn't matter. Once your chips are in the middle all decision making processes are over. What are you hoping to hear? "Don't let a club fall on the turn!"?
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

You missed the complete point of the post. I asked if I made the right decisions. Usually, one tends to question a decision when the result is negative rather than positive.

Sorry I didn't post the question to your exacting standards.... wow.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

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You missed the complete point of the post. I asked if I made the right decisions. Usually, one tends to question a decision when the result is negative rather than positive.

Sorry I didn't post the question to your exacting standards.... wow.

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The problem is that you shouldn't be questioning your decision based on the results. Like I said, if you had won the hand, you wouldn't have spent another seconds thought on the hand. Do you truely believe you played the hand badly?

I'm just telling you for future reference, don't include the results of the hand (at least in the original post). You will find much the replies to be much more helpful and it won't look like a bad beat post.

In this case, it just appears that you're looking for sympathy after taking a bad beat, and thats not what the forum is for.
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:18 PM
HeroInBlack HeroInBlack is offline
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

All criticism of your post aside, just in case you're a newbie like we all were one time (and I still am), you played it perfectly. Do this over and over and over and you will build up giant chip stacks more times than not, and hopefully the next suckout won't break or cripple you.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:46 PM
Havok Havok is offline
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

You made a good judgement putting him on flush so why push it so early in the hand with his odds of improving better. I would have just called to see what the turn brought and then pushed it from there if a blank fell. Maybe a check raise and give him bad odds to draw to a flush on the river.
And when club comes on the river, and you know your beat, its easier to get away from the hand with less invested, and then your not crippled from one hand.
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Old 06-07-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Whose play was worse... Need help :(

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You made a good judgement putting him on flush so why push it so early in the hand with his odds of improving better. I would have just called to see what the turn brought and then pushed it from there if a blank fell. Maybe a check raise and give him bad odds to draw to a flush on the river.
And when club comes on the river, and you know your beat, its easier to get away from the hand with less invested, and then your not crippled from one hand.

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Interesting, this probabaly is not a bad way to play this hand against this particular player.
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Old 06-07-2005, 06:09 PM
VoxGibson VoxGibson is offline
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Default Would folding be entirely incorrect?

changing the way everything went about....
four limpers... catch the set... guy pushes all in, and youre positive its a club flush draw...
would it be unreasonable to fold and wait for better opportunities... what about early in tourneys... what about close to the money? what about in th emoney?
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