Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: NL holdem $50
My Best Roi 9 100.00%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 06-02-2005, 10:41 AM
chief444 chief444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 211
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

I think you should have a raise option for #3, although it's certainly not an option I would always choose.

I think they're all pretty close except I almost always play JTs in an unraised pot. But I'd be looking at specific stats for opponents who limped in front and left to act for any of these really before making a decision.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-02-2005, 10:47 AM
Schmed Schmed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 773
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

I limp with every one of those most of the time except UTG with j10s...I will some times get agressive with a hand like the j9s with a weak limper in front but very seldom
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-02-2005, 10:47 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 270
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

[ QUOTE ]
If you have one limper in, plus you, plus the two blinds, thats 4 way action.

[/ QUOTE ]
You always play from SB? You should not play many more hands from SB than from a non-blind position.

[ QUOTE ]
IF you have two loose passives (VPIP 50+, PFR < 5)

[/ QUOTE ]
This means they play 50% of their hands, not 100%. They're more likely to limp because the pot seems to get multiway though. Nut if there also is a couple of TAGs behind (there will be most of the time) the risk is that they raise is pretty big which could fold both the blinds and loose players, giving you 3 way action.

You can only VERY rarely assume 6 players to the flop when you act after 1 limper. With the reads I gave assuming 6 players to the flop would be silly.

Of course I know it's depending on the table but given those rough guidelines you could answer with a the standard decision in this situation.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-02-2005, 10:50 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 270
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

[ QUOTE ]
I limp with every one of those most of the time except UTG with j10s...I will some times get agressive with a hand like the j9s with a weak limper in front but very seldom

[/ QUOTE ]
In MP1 seldom = never?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 270
Default Some analysis

Looking at results so far there are only one thing that suprises me.

Hand 1 (J9s):
Fold: 14
Limp: 7 (1 easy)

Hand 4 (JTs):
Fold: 6
Limp: 15 (7 easy)

There are a big differance between these hands. JTs seems to be an easy limp UTG for many players while J9s from MP1 after 1 limper is marginal but the majority wants to fold.

I think the differance between these are very slim. The presence of a limper means a lot IMO since I won't be isolated by a TAG nearly as often when limping 2nd in. Also if I get raised the pot will still end up multiway pretty often since the presence on the earlier limper.

I suspect that limp JTs UTG is some kind of standard posters use and because of that it becomes easy, but I actually think it's not better than limping in hand 1 (not saying any of these hands are folds).

Thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:07 AM
mtdoak mtdoak is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: I\'ve got a bounty on some fish...
Posts: 510
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

BTW, if you have 5 tags at a table....unless the other 5 are uber fish...time to find a new table.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:11 AM
istewart istewart is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Baseball Preview Issue
Posts: 2,523
Default Re: Some analysis

I do not play 3/6 so I am not fully qualified. However, I agree with your ideas Royale (regarding JTs UTG vs. J9s in MP).
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:11 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 270
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

[ QUOTE ]
BTW, if you have 5 tags at a table....unless the other 5 are uber fish...time to find a new table.

[/ QUOTE ]
Your're right, I should have said 3-4. 3 players with around 45% vpip makes me stick around no matter what the other players are like, though.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:21 AM
toss toss is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: 2+2 Archives Digging up Gold
Posts: 1,327
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

Oh crap so I'm not the only guy with vpip > 15 at Party 3/6. And I must say 13.3 is pretty low.

The hands that I'm most likely to play here is Hand #1, Hand#4, then Hand#5.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-02-2005, 11:23 AM
Octopus Octopus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: working on my dissertation
Posts: 143
Default Re: Preflop limping quiz

[ QUOTE ]
Your're right, I should have said 3-4. 3 players with around 45% vpip makes me stick around no matter what the other players are like, though.

[/ QUOTE ]

If I have good position on him, one such player is sometimes enough.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.