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Old 06-01-2005, 02:49 PM
draw2aflush draw2aflush is offline
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

I know it is more complicated than that.It would take a novel to write every possible reason but, that is the basic question
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

My take is that due to stack size and current blind situation: 2nd place is very attainable from your standpoint. Why mix it up with the big stack and let the two other fellas who will get blinded out soon move up in the money?

On the other hand: how often will you get a big pair like that 4 handed with a great chance to have a stranglehold on the game. I can't fault the play, but I would consider folding in that situation. I'd have to have seen how the big stack is playing: it's one thing if he will attempt to steal on the smaller stacks, but realizes that you are the biggest hurdle to him winning. The point about payout structure is key as well: if top 3 only make money, and 2nd is greater than 3rd....why not shoot for that and try to gamble your way into first relying on your own solid play from that point on?

If there were several steal attempts by the big stack, why not call. You were the favorite preplop, and a bad card came off.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

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Hey asswipe

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Another failed attempt?

Save your unfunny insults for the "2+2 Comedy Tour" please. It's really not welcome here.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

You are a little more than a 2:1 favorite so calling has +EV, but in a tournament you need to finish ITM. Therefore it is not a good idea to get into confrontations w/ chip leader. It only cost you $100 to fold, you have a lot of money left, and will most likly end up in 2nd or 3rd b/c small stacks will blind out or take each other out... hard to do, but fold...
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

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I know it is more complicated than that.It would take a novel to write every possible reason but, that is the basic question

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My problem with stating it the way you did is that it would imply that folding AA in the same spot would be a good play.
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

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Where do you get 10,000 CHIPS FROM?

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If you double up off the big stack, you'll have approximately 10K chips.
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Old 06-01-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

Are you the godfather of this site?
because you sure act like it
your very swift to speak for everyone
a little humor never hurts
it did stink though ...................
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Old 06-01-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

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You are a little more than a 2:1 favorite so calling has +EV, but in a tournament you need to finish ITM.

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This quote basically says that ITM is more important than ROI. This is very very wrong.
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Old 06-01-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

Well come on fold AAs I don't so because I know I have the best hand preflop.It is not a no brainer that QQs are winning.Grant it is a good chance but being outdrawn is not unlikely and AA will hold up just that little bit more often that you cannot fold that.I would fold KKs also
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Old 06-01-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?

True your right
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