Defending SB with 77. - Page 2

MAxx · #11 05-31-2005, 03:57 PM

i think a very aggressive player (probably not the standard TAG) could 3bet the flop with something like AK, depending on what he interpretted SW's cr to mean. FLop c/r's sometimes look weak.

if player is really aggressive, I dont really want to cr with the intension of laying down to returned fire. that kind of plan would be more informative/productive vs a less aggressive kind of player.

BottlesOf · #12 05-31-2005, 04:50 PM

Perfect, now let's talk about scare cards.

How are you reacting to an A, a K, a Q, a J? Q then J? Will a club make a difference?

wrto4556 · #13 05-31-2005, 04:56 PM

i dont think a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] makes much difference. Id fold to an A. Call down the rest, unless it came runner runner. I would fold to runner runner broadway.

StellarWind · #14 06-01-2005, 01:15 AM

Villain showed A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHIG.

Sanity check: Villain's river bet is something I would never do. Yet it is very popular at 5/10 and many of its practitioners don't seem to be complete idiots. Thoughts?

BugsBunny · #15 06-01-2005, 02:24 AM

The only time it would make sense is if you suspect opp may be calling you down with a weaker A.

wheelz · #16 06-01-2005, 02:29 AM

I don't think it's a good thing if you'll never make an AK high value bet on the river. In some situations it's a no-brainer play.

Nate tha' Great · #17 06-01-2005, 04:50 AM

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Villain showed A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHIG.

Sanity check: Villain's river bet is something I would never do. Yet it is very popular at 5/10 and many of its practitioners don't seem to be complete idiots. Thoughts?

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I'll make that bet fairly often if the other player has just been checking and calling the whole way and the board hasn't developed into much of anything. I figure sometimes I'll get another AK to fold and sometimes I'll get a hand like AQ to call and this outweighs the times that an opponent plays some other reasonable hand this way, which is really quite rare.

ALL1N · #18 06-01-2005, 04:53 AM

I will frequently CR this turn and bet the river, but it really depends on the opponent's capping standards. The line you took is fine.

MAxx · #19 06-01-2005, 10:22 AM

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The only time it would make sense is if you suspect opp may be calling you down with a weaker A.

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what are some things that make you suspect that you are being called down by a weaker ace vs. something like a small peice of the board or a baby pp?

I just ask cuzz i rarely valuebet umimproved overs with position.

Edit: O I see Balkii's new thread.

Grisgra · #20 06-01-2005, 10:31 AM

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Villain showed A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHIG.

Sanity check: Villain's river bet is something I would never do. Yet it is very popular at 5/10 and many of its practitioners don't seem to be complete idiots. Thoughts?

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If you don't bet, they can't fold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. It's also a value bet against some, but probably not here -- your hand screams "I'm holding on for dear life with a tiny pocket!". Nice hand, by the way.