Newbie's should start with HEFAP

[bottomset]

[ QUOTE ]
i strongly disagree.

[/ QUOTE ]

its for playing against Advanced Players ... less than 5% of the players at the micro level fit that category

to be the micro level its best to play machine since thats what gets the money, boring standard ABC poker

[Jakesta]

You can use SSH against advanced players at the micros too, because the tables are loose enough.

[cold_cash]

Relatively speaking, I found the pre-flop charts to be the least enlightening/informative sections of the book.

I also doubt that was an accident on the part of the authors.

I've read both SSH and HEPFAP a number of times, and for the games and opponents I play SSH is by far more applicable.

Having said that, I don't think either book is best for a complete noob.

[imported_exelius]

Ok, I'm glad I saw this thread. I'm fairly new. I play the .5/1 have about 500 hands so far ( that ive put into PT, which I bought too). I've played alot more of course but have no record.

I actually started out with HEPFAP, then heard that holdem poker by sklansky helps to understand the former. So, I read that one. I have to admit HEPFAP is a hard read.

I currently have 7.55BB/100 under player summary atm ( i know its unsustainable but at least Im winning atm) and I assume I'm telling the right figure, its under player summary on the general tab, is that the right one everybody quotes?

So, I havent finished reading HEPFAP yet, thats why I read the smaller one first, should I stop now and cut it off and go get SSH? Because I dont want to trap myself into a way I think is good when its really not. I'm concerned now, after I read this thread lol.

Thanks,

Ex

[vulturesrow]

Quite frankly, this is bad advice. Getting Started in Hold'em or maybe Winning Low Limit Hold'em should be first. HEPFAP is way too much for starting out in low limit hold'em. SSH after you are completely comfortable playing.

Also saying SSH is a forumlaic book is incorrect too. People who approach it as such are the ones that get into trouble with their game after reading it. There is a lot of decision making to do playing that style of game.

[cold_cash]

I haven't read it, but if I were just starting out again my first book would be Getting Started in Hold Em.

I think you need a solid foundation before you can fully understand and apply many of the concepts in the other books.

[Isura]

[ QUOTE ]
i strongly disagree.

[/ QUOTE ]

[imported_exelius]

To add to my post, Holdem poker by Sklansky is a beginner book, but I am completely comfortable with playing and feel I'm ready for the next step. So, thats why I'm concerned about the path to go HEPFAP or SSH

Thanks,
Ex

[vulturesrow]

[ QUOTE ]
To add to my post, Holdem poker by Sklansky is a beginner book, but I am completely comfortable with playing and feel I'm ready for the next step. So, thats why I'm concerned about the path to go HEPFAP or SSH

Thanks,
Ex

[/ QUOTE ]

SSH

[mmbt0ne]

It sounds like either you or the people you are referencing are not applying SSHE correctly.

That said, anyone who has never studied poker should read books in this order: WLLH, TOP, SSHE, HEPFAP.