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Old 05-27-2005, 04:24 PM
Freakin Freakin is offline
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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A cop can actually pull you over because he claims to have 'saw' you without a seatbelt on?

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They can in NY, and they do.

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In WA too. New tag line is "Click it or ticket"

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Old 05-27-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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In WA too. New tag line is "Click it or ticket"

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Yeah, that is the tag line in CT, where I live. But you wont get pulled over for solely not having a seatbelt on.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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This has to be absurdly easy to win in court then, no? Unless they have some picture or something which is unlikely.

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No. His word against yours. They'll take his 99.9% of the time.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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This has to be absurdly easy to win in court then, no? Unless they have some picture or something which is unlikely.

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No. His word against yours. They'll take his 99.9% of the time.

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Wrong. The cops don't even show up to these things 99.9% of the time. They have better things to do then testify in town court about a seat belt violation- like buying donuts.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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This has to be absurdly easy to win in court then, no? Unless they have some picture or something which is unlikely.

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No. His word against yours. They'll take his 99.9% of the time.

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Ok, word against word is something that doesnt fly in CT courts or Mass courts, it is pretty easy to get it thrown out if that is all they have. I guess its different where you live.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:31 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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Wrong. The cops don't even show up to these things 99.9% of the time. They have better things to do then testify in town court about a seat belt violation- like buying donuts.

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If they don't show up, you win. That works for any ticket though. I'm talking about getting a seat belt tocket thrown out specifically.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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Wrong. The cops don't even show up to these things 99.9% of the time. They have better things to do then testify in town court about a seat belt violation- like buying donuts.

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If they don't show up, you win. That works for any ticket though. I'm talking about getting a seat belt tocket thrown out specifically.

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True. Most of the time here they'll just give people a warning, and say to wear it. But you never get pulled over by the same cop here, so you can just never wear it if you don't want to.

I always wear my belt because it's just the smart thing to do. I don't want to go through the windshield if I get in an accident. But I don't think that people should have to wear seat belts if they don't want to.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

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A cop can actually pull you over because he claims to have 'saw' you without a seatbelt on?

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They can in NY, and they do.

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In WA too. New tag line is "Click it or ticket"

Freakin

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I'm not actually certain that is legal here. I know they used to have to pull you over for something else to give you a seat belt ticket. The state congress gave them a directive to ticket people for seatbelts, but i'm not sure they actually remembered to *give them the power* to do it. I could be wrong though. The campaign is as lame as the signs on the side of the road that give busybodies a # to call to report HOV lane violators.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

i live in indiana. the law says you must use a seatbelt when you are in the front seat of a car, but not in a truck. i have an SUV, which i can plate as a car or a truck. when plated as a car, they can pull me over and ticket me if they see me without a seatbelt on. when plated as a truck, they cannot give me any seatbelt ticket at all.

also, helmets are not required when riding on a motorcycle here. makes a ton of sense, eh?

seatbelt laws have nothing to do with "public safety", and everything to do with the insurance lobby's enormous power due to generously donating to political campaigns.

cheers!
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?

You all just need to move to california where they don't bother giving traffic violations unless you're drunk...
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