QQ vs 3 opponents

[Fantam]

I agree with your reasoning in this hand Losfer.

I think the reasoning with the bet/fold line is so as not to give players with worse hands a free show down.

However, I agree that the OP's hand is not strong enough to do that in this instance.

[Losfer]

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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I'm confused....don't those aces beat QQ?

[Sarge85]

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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HU, perhaps, but 3 way, i don't think both have worse hands.

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[Sarge85]

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Do you expect any worse hands than yours to call? Not really (a pair of jacks maybe?)

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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I'm confused....don't those aces beat QQ?

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He's not saying Ace 5, he is saying A 5. as in ABC...

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[Losfer]

I know you agreed with me, but I would appreciate more discussion about this concept:

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I think the reasoning with the bet/fold line is so as not to give players with worse hands a free show down.


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It's not just about not giving a free showdown to a hand that you beat. It's not giving a free showdown to a hand that you beat and would call another bet. I think this is a weakness for me (I check to often). Can anyone enlighten me about which worse hands will call here?

thanks,
Losfer

[Losfer]

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A 5, a 2, a T, a J, a lower pocket pair.

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I'm confused....don't those aces beat QQ?

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He's not saying Ace 5, he is saying A 5. as in ABC...

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I'm dumb.

Thanks.

[Wetdog]

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I actually like the way you played it, but the river decision is pretty close. Can you fold to a raise?

More that I think about it, bet/fold the river, anything that raises the river has you beat.

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Not necessarily, and check call at least gives you a chance at winning for the same 1 bet.

[davelin]

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Not necessarily, and check call at least gives you a chance at winning for the same 1 bet.

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The problem is that if you get a bet via check/call, you're more likely to lose than getting a bet via bet/fold.

[Wetdog]

How is calling more likely to lose than folding? I haven't picked up any pots after I folded.

OK, excuse the smart-assism. I do appreciate your comment.Is it as likely that a .50 1 player will have you beat if he bets than a 3-6 player? I think that pups and kitties are being mutilated everywhere if a 13 bet pot is folded to for 1 bet.

edit: Specific to this hand, it's possible that CO has a flush. It's also possible that he has jacks. A check may induce a bluff or bet on a smaller pair. Same 1 bet, better outcome than a fold.

[@bsolute_luck]

my thought: by checking, you haven't faced the Ace the pressure to fold. you'll be raised by a flush, but i doubt an Ace.