Downswing eating my soul. What's normal?

[mmbt0ne]

If anyone ever has a question like this, the answer is always a zero. I don't use capital "O"s in screen names because I'm 1337, and because they're usually taken.

[shadow29]

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If anyone ever has a question like this, the answer is always a zero. I don't use capital "O"s in screen names because I'm 1337, and because they're usually taken.

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Anyway.



I just transfered $15 to your acct. I thought about trying to win back the other $10, but then I realized that I would probably just tilt it away in drunken stupor. Peachtree City? Ugh, you're so hoi polloi. I don't think I'll talk to you again.

[mmbt0ne]

Hell yeah Peachtree City. Why you have to be a hater?

I would make fun of you, but according to PS you actually live IN Atlanta. I can't really do much with that. But, if you live in Marietta, Smyrna, Roswell, Acworth, etc. then I pshhaw at you too. Fuc[/b]king northen monkeys. (Movie? Anyone?)

[shadow29]

Well I won't be in Atlanta soon.

Sandy Springs, biatch. I thumb my nose at you.

[mmbt0ne]

We wipe our ass with Sandy Springs. Enjoy your overcrowded poorness.

Sandy Springs, GA

Population (year 2000): 85,781
Males: 42,150 (49.1%), Females: 43,631 (50.9%)

Elevation: 1032 feet

County: Fulton

Land area: 37.7 square miles

Zip code: 30328

Median resident age: 33.2 years
Median household income: $60,428 (year 2000)


Peachtree City, GA

Population (year 2000): 31,580, Est. population in July 2002: 32,406 (+2.6% change)
Males: 15,405 (48.8%), Females: 16,175 (51.2%)

Elevation: 920 feet

County: Fayette

Land area: 23.3 square miles

Zip code: 30269

Median resident age: 37.5 years
Median household income: $76,458 (year 2000)

[olavfo]

Some adjustments that could help you fight through this downswing:

<ul type="square"> [*]Play sessions of predefined length. 1 hour sessions is perfect. When the time is up, quit whether you're losing or winning.[*]Reduce the number of tables, if you're multitabling.[*]Go back to basics and tighten up your preflop play. Skip marginal hands and stick to basic solid poker.[*]Take a few days off and read SSH (or the text of your choice) again. That should help you "reset" your mind.[/list]I once had a nasty -237 BB streak, which I killed by taking a 5 day break from poker. When I started playing again, things were back to normal and playing felt good.

Nowadays, if I sense I'm having a long, bad streak, I tighten up and play shorter sessions. Staying out of marginal situations reduces the potential for making poor decisions, while playing shorter sessions helps me stay off tilt.

olavfo

[stlip]

From your previous stats post you know that one of your leaks is a low WTSD number indicating that you fold too many marginal, but ultimately +EV hands. So I suppose it figures things would get a bit bleaker than average when you have a run where the strong hands don't win since too many of your other potential winning hands are routinely going in the muck.

The middle of a downswing (I shouldn't say the middle because you're probably already at about the end) is going to be a tough place to push yourself to start learning to play more marginal hands so I suggest you either focus on .5/1 or even wait until the downswing has run its course.

Here I must confess I can't be of much help in suggesting how to look for more types of hands to play. I already play a looser than average 1/2, VPIP 22-23 (24-25 when I played .5/1) and WTSD 38, W$SD 51.

I can say, by looking at some of the situations that I consider dicey but profitable, that overcards and middle pairs, usually with backdoor straight and flush potential in both, might be areas where you fold too quickly to a flop bet. It's very read dependent and pot size dependent, but I do plenty of good business in that area.

[martinimagic]

No worries man. I think I just bounced off the bottom of a -150BB downswing at .5/1. The only good news is I went about 1 month without have a losing session. I won like 250BB in a week at one point. It all evens out at some point. I took a break and still was playing bad after that. After this I looked at PT stats and realized I had loosened up over time... I loosened up due to the invincible feeling I had on +250BB gain. I also picked up Gamtime+ and this has been a big help.

I think the break is a great idea. It's easy to slip into loose mode when things are going good. I tightened up every so slightly and this made a big difference. Best of luck.

[mojobluesman]

Welcome to my life.

I have a funny feeling that a lot of winning players here actually haven't experienced a run of cards like this. They may have had downturns where they weren't getting good cards to play, weren't hitting the flop, and were getting blinded off and had a few occasional bad beats.

What you are describing gets so relentless it feels like a way of life.

When I flop a flush it's against 1 opponent that folds for a single flop bet.

When I have a nut flush draw against 5 opponents it gets capped pre-flop, capped on the flop, and raised on the turn but I don't fill. If I do fill, a pair comes on the river and I get full housed.

I give it another year and some big winners here are going to find out that they aren't as good as they think.

[KingOtter]

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We wipe our ass with Sandy Springs. Enjoy your overcrowded poorness.

Sandy Springs, GA

Population (year 2000): 85,781
Males: 42,150 (49.1%), Females: 43,631 (50.9%)

Elevation: 1032 feet

County: Fulton

Land area: 37.7 square miles

Zip code: 30328

Median resident age: 33.2 years
Median household income: $60,428 (year 2000)


Peachtree City, GA

Population (year 2000): 31,580, Est. population in July 2002: 32,406 (+2.6% change)
Males: 15,405 (48.8%), Females: 16,175 (51.2%)

Elevation: 920 feet

County: Fayette

Land area: 23.3 square miles

Zip code: 30269

Median resident age: 37.5 years
Median household income: $76,458 (year 2000)

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Yeah, well I live in Cumming, GA. You can imagine the comments *I* get on Party skins.

KO