In theory, perfect poker is possible.

[Zetack]

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no, it isn't, if you take into account that opponents will not always do the same thing in similar situations, there is a certain randomness to many decisions. you can't always predict exactly what an opponent will do, which is needed to play perfect poker.

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I think what he's saying is that if you knew that he always did something say 93 percent of the time in a certain sitution you could determine the optimal play against him knowing that, not that its necessary for the oponent to do the exact same thing every time in a certain situation.

--Zetack

[Voltron87]

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no, it isn't, if you take into account that opponents will not always do the same thing in similar situations, there is a certain randomness to many decisions. you can't always predict exactly what an opponent will do, which is needed to play perfect poker.

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I think what he's saying is that if you knew that he always did something say 93 percent of the time in a certain sitution you could determine the optimal play against him knowing that, not that its necessary for the oponent to do the exact same thing every time in a certain situation.

--Zetack

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then it is not perfect poker, the 7% that the opponent varies their play will not be played perfectly.

[twindrake]

Considering being it in theory, everything can be made perfect. Don't know what that will get you in the practicum though. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[adamstewart]

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no, it isn't, if you take into account that opponents will not always do the same thing in similar situations, there is a certain randomness to many decisions. you can't always predict exactly what an opponent will do, which is needed to play perfect poker.

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I think what he's saying is that if you knew that he always did something say 93 percent of the time in a certain sitution you could determine the optimal play against him knowing that, not that its necessary for the oponent to do the exact same thing every time in a certain situation.

--Zetack

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exactly.


it would just be a matter of comparing the liklihood of an opponent's holdings and actions, and acting accordingly.

Without seeing the cards, that's all we can do.


Adam

[Voltron87]

there is a certain degree of randomness to some decisions, what about when an opponent does something which they do not usually do?

[adamstewart]

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there is a certain degree of randomness to some decisions, what about when an opponent does something which they do not usually do?

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all we can do is act according to the greatest probability.


Adam

[CallMeIshmael]

Adam, though I do agree with you that, in theory this is possible, I contend that we do not, at this point, have the adequate HH database.

Poker situations are so varied, that even for players with 1 million hands (clearly getting towards the biggest online players) they have only seen some situations a few times.

[marvepo]

There is a program to test your own strategy in poker online. Very useful in Preflop [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] http://www.holdemmemory.com

[twindrake]

You really think this thread has a point?

[tomahawk]

what winrate do you think this play would achieve in the various online games ? would sure be interesting to know.