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#11
05-21-2005, 12:59 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
I also had a hard time figuring out what the miniraise ment, i had no read whatsoever on the player.
First thought would be a monster. Another thought: he has a medium hand (AJ, 99 or something like that), wants to raise but doesn't want to commit himself, hence the miniraise. 
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#12
05-21-2005, 01:11 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
The first one is clearly a call, I would fold the 2nd one simply because although it's only 100 more, you could lose a LOT more than 100 should you hit here along with someone else who dominates you. It's early.
I think everyone is ignoring in hand one that the BB is 300. It's not even a 3x BB raise people.
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#13
05-21-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
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The first one is clearly a call [/ QUOTE ] Not really...if you think it will be checked down to river *alot* then I don't mind calling....22 is one of the worst hands I can imagine having here (you can't call anything post flop unless you hit ur set). [ QUOTE ] I would fold the 2nd one simply because although it's only 100 more, you could lose a LOT more than 100 should you hit here along with someone else who dominates you. It's early. [/ QUOTE ] I fold the second one...mainly b/c the UTG minraise = v strong hand too much of the time. [ QUOTE ] I think everyone is ignoring in hand one that the BB is 300. It's not even a 3x BB raise people. [/ QUOTE ] I doubt it....the problem is getting to showdown when you don't hit a set - it really starts to kill your $EV in a hurry. That being said, I don't really mind calling if you are familiar with your opponent. Yugoslav
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#14
05-21-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
i'm confused, am i way out of line on the first hand that i think that my choices would be largely between pushing preflop and folding, not having calling as an option? beyond that, i haven't thought about this hand at all.
citanul
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#15
05-21-2005, 01:41 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
I'm with you on hand 1 citanul. If I think that there's a chance I can push SB off of his hand, I'm pushing. If not, I'm folding
on hand two, saying that "I'm the BB in #2 so it's only 100 more" is terrible reasoning. It does not matter if its only t100 if you're dominated and an utg mini raise screams AA KK. I'm almost always folding this unless I somehow think that utg is weak in which case I might call. In a very rare occassion against certain players I might push instead.
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#16
05-21-2005, 01:45 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
i agree if i am playing this hand i am pushing. That said, I dont really want to play this hand.
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#19
05-21-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
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Heh. I'm really surprised how many of you are folding hand #2. I'd call this in a second. Of course, if you don't know how to get rid of top pair, fold it. [/ QUOTE ] I think hand 2 is an easy call, and there is no way I am getting rid of top pair with as big as the pot is.
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#20
05-21-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: Two 200+15 hands
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i'm confused, am i way out of line on the first hand that i think that my choices would be largely between pushing preflop and folding, not having calling as an option? beyond that, i haven't thought about this hand at all. citanul [/ QUOTE ] Yup. Push or fold. Push flop ok also, if risky.
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