How's my line with Queens?

[Leaky Game]

Makes sense, thanks.

At this level I see all kinds of people staying in with crap (ie, tp awful kicker, middle pp, etc) when they long since should have folded so it would be tough for me to think a guy was good enough to fold to a value bet. I could very well be wrong on this though.

[Zag]

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Admitting to the donk that I am. Can someone explain a value bet when you think you're behind?

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You are correct, a bet on the river would have been foolish and Alex is just wrong. Since you (correctly) checked behind on the turn, even a bad king is going to call you down. The ONLY hand I can put the villain on that might call you and lose is JJ. Any other hand that you beat will just fold, but all hands that beat you will call. This is the definition of a terrible river bet.

I think you played this fine on every street. If I had to make a change, I might have raised by a little more preflop, but your raise was on the low edge of OK, IMHO.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Weird hand. I don't like preflop. Just call, you're not far ahead if you're ahead at all. Flop is fine, but I might even bet smaller. The only danger to betting small is if he a)has a draw - which he doesnt or b)will read it as weakness and raise with a worse hand - but you have AA/KK most likely and he knows you aren't getting off of either so it just looks like a milking bet. If he calls you, you are done with the hand. You're not moving him off of AK/AA/KK and those are the only hands you're behind.

[jonnyUCB]

I always have been taught to RR with queens preflop and have never changed it though I see a lot of people advocating flat-calling a raise OOP or in position. Do you care to elaborate more on why one should make this play?

[kongo_totte]

This is a question of whether a min.raise is to be considered a raise or not. If it is, you made a 3-raise. I also re-raise queens (usually) but rarely 3-raise them.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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I always have been taught to RR with queens preflop and have never changed it though I see a lot of people advocating flat-calling a raise OOP or in position. Do you care to elaborate more on why one should make this play?

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It really depends. I am more likely to re-raise a late position raise than an early position raise. I am more likely to re-raise heads up than multi-way. I am more likely to re-raise a passive postflop player than an aggressive one. I am more likely to re-raise if I have a LAG image than if I have a TAG one.

In this case, however, even if you don't count the first raise as a raise because it is a min-raise (although I would still be a bit nervous because some people min-raise with AA/KK) I still think it shows more strength when someone re-raises a min-raise than when they just raise against limpers. Therefore, the re-raiser's hand range is probably something along the lines of AA-TT/AKs-AQs/AKo unless you have a read that he re-raises lighter than that. Against that hand range, you definitely don't want to re-re-raise. And then there is the possibility of being against a monster from the min-raiser. And you are pretty close to PCed once you re-re-raise and bet the flop, so I particularly don't like it with these stack sizes. Give everyone another 100BB and then I like it better (but still don't like it).