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#12
05-02-2005, 03:01 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
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is that counting the times you pay off on the river to a dirty out? [/ QUOTE ] Well, it depends a lot on the action, but it's negated by the fact that I figure I'm getting 6 bets on the river a lot of the time, which grants me a ton of overlay. 
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#14
05-02-2005, 03:53 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
I'm fairly new to poker so I'm probably making myself look stupid here, but I'm not sure I understand the postflop raise. You've been bet into, the pot is small, your hand is fairly weak, and you have active players behind you who could raise. My understanding was that when you play a suited connector, you want to flop a stronger draw than this to continue with the hand.
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#15
05-02-2005, 04:23 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
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I'm fairly new to poker so I'm probably making myself look stupid here, but I'm not sure I understand the postflop raise. You've been bet into, the pot is small, your hand is fairly weak, and you have active players behind you who could raise. My understanding was that when you play a suited connector, you want to flop a stronger draw than this to continue with the hand. [/ QUOTE ] The pot is not fairly small. I'm getting 7.5:1 with around 6 outs, which is enough to continue; at this point, since I'm not folding, the question is whether I should raise or call. Since I feel raising will let me draw more cheaply, by getting me to the river for 1BB the majority of the time, I raised. This time, it backfired, but against passive opposition who will very rarely 3-bet you, raising is preferrable to calling on flops like these. Rob
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#16
05-02-2005, 04:33 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
I agree with this. If it was heads up checkraising would be better. Here if he checks through you may miss bets from the overcallers which would really suck.
-DeathDonkey
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#17
05-02-2005, 04:39 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
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I agree with this. If it was heads up checkraising would be better. Here if he checks through you may miss bets from the overcallers which would really suck. -DeathDonkey [/ QUOTE ] So you don't think he's betting the river > 50% of the time?
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#18
05-02-2005, 05:37 PM
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Re: Fun w/87s
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So you don't think he's betting the river > 50% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] I think Button is easily betting the river > 50% of the time. Any hand/any player that 3-bets this flop is very very likely to be betting the river since the turn and river look so safe. I think the real question is whether or not you're actually ahead of him, but with all the overlay you're getting, I go for the CR 100% of the time.
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