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Old 05-02-2005, 12:12 AM
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the only hands you beat:
A8
A6
A4
A3

his play looks a lot like a Q or weak K

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Was there a plan of action among all that analysis? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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check-fold river?
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:13 AM
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He also beats JT and random diamond hands.

I like betting river because so many hacks have to see all five cards with anything. It works for me usually.

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and decent players will own you with a Q or K
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:15 AM
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wouldn't those have to raise on this board though?

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where? this is a particularly awful board. what's he calling the flop with? he's raising with a worse hand to push you off A high. he's more likely to play passively with a hand that's worth a showdown

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Yeah stheif I agree with you, I was just thinking the same thing. Sure maybe he'd raise a queen or a king earlier on in the hand, but the same can be said about a draw, even more so. Is the turn bet standard all?
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Ace High Calldown

This river call doesn't make money against an aggressive opponent. If he had a draw, you would have heard about it by now.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:19 AM
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wouldn't those have to raise on this board though?

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where? this is a particularly awful board. what's he calling the flop with? he's raising with a worse hand to push you off A high. he's more likely to play passively with a hand that's worth a showdown

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Yeah stheif I agree with you, I was just thinking the same thing. Sure maybe he'd raise a queen or a king earlier on in the hand, but the same can be said about a draw, even more so. Is the turn bet standard all?

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the turn is tough I think. if you check you really hate to call a bet and probably shouldn't. maybe he called the flop with somethign weak like a gut shot or a pocket pair and realizes it's so likely the KQx flop hit you and will fold. being out of position sucks
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Ace High Calldown

Wouldnt you have heard from a K or Q in a 3 handed aggro 30/60 game?

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Old 05-02-2005, 12:19 AM
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Wouldnt you have heard from a K or Q in a 3 handed aggro 30/60 game?


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not necessarily
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:20 AM
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Is the turn bet standard all?

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Many opponents will call a bet on the flop with weak draws to take the pot away from you on the turn if you check.

Betting the turn here in a 3-handed game has to be analyzed from a Shania perspective. If you check too often in these spots without check-raising your strong hands/bluffs, you will get run over. It's probably easier to balance your play by betting.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:21 AM
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If opponent is competent, he will quite often let you hang yourself with a 2nd best hand on this board because raising will chase away underpairs and ace high.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:22 AM
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Ok, Ill say Villain is more likely to have a pair than a draw. But not 7.5x as likely.

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