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Old 04-29-2005, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Need some help with this hand

This is an extremely easy preflop fold.

On the flop, slowplaying two-pair on a board this coordinated isn't the right move IMO. I'd raise the first time it comes to me.

Turn and river I'm cool with.

And who the hell is that TONY guy on the flop?
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:45 PM
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You shouldn't limp in with that hand, and if you do, don't call a raise.
After that, raise that thing on the flop and lead. Call on river.

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Folding after limping in would be wrong.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:46 PM
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by the way villian is a very loose raiser will raise and call with just about anything his aggression factor is 2.33 after only about 60 hands.

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My aggression factor is about the same.

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Have you considered the possibility that you're a very loose raiser? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:46 PM
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And who the hell is that TONY guy on the flop?

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Old 04-29-2005, 12:48 PM
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by the way villian is a very loose raiser will raise and call with just about anything his aggression factor is 2.33 after only about 60 hands.

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My aggression factor is about the same.

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Have you considered the possibility that you're a very loose raiser? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Quite possible [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Need some help with this hand

thanks for the help guys. I wanted to fold it pre flop but thought I might be able to limp in wouldnt have called many others raise preflop but I like to call this guys. My mistake i guess.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:51 PM
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thanks for the help guys. I wanted to fold it pre flop but thought I might be able to limp in wouldnt have called many others raise preflop but I like to call this guys. My mistake i guess.

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Save limps like these for when you have position.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:56 PM
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Looking at this I see I was way out of position. No wonder problem solved. Sometimes I forget obout the position. I am working on it and have come a long ways but still slip on it
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:04 PM
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Looking at this I see I was way out of position. No wonder problem solved. Sometimes I forget obout the position. I am working on it and have come a long ways but still slip on it

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Looks like you are on the right track. This hand is shows exactly why position is so imporant. In late position it would be much less likely to be raised behind you (since there are only 2-3 people left to act), you'd know if you had enough limpers to make this profitable and you could see what everyone else was going to do on the flop before choosing your action.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:07 PM
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boy it so obvious when you look at it on this forum. I have noticed since I have started using PT that I am making my money in the late positions. I just need to pound it into my brain. BTW thanks for the super fast responses
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