Flopped top 2 pair, but I don't like my play

[NickRegino]

c/r the flop and bet turn and river. Be aggressive! u got the nuts.

[aK13]

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c/r the flop - bet turn and river - Be aggressive! - u got the nuts.

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No, yes, yes, and no.

[DasThiem]

nothing scary on the board so i would jam the pot, especially on the flop i would check-raise or raise.

[DeadRed]

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c/r the flop - bet turn and river - Be aggressive! - u got the nuts.

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No, yes, yes, and no.

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Why not a c/r here? The only thing scary about this board is the T9. If you want to cause the limpers to make the largest possible mistake, get them to face 2 bets by using the original raiser. Betting out may slow every else down and call you down, so I think a c/r is called for at either the flop or the turn. Betting the flop and checking the turn may look suspicious, so why not c/r, then bet out on the turn and river?

[aK13]

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c/r the flop - bet turn and river - Be aggressive! - u got the nuts.

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No, yes, yes, and no.

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Why not a c/r here? The only thing scary about this board is the T9. If you want to cause the limpers to make the largest possible mistake, get them to face 2 bets by using the original raiser.

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Good point. How do we make them face 2 bets? MP2 is the likely bettor, so if he bets and then it comes back around, we're not doing anythingwith a raise but bloating the pot for gutshots to stick around and outdraw us. The pot is reaosnably large with a huge number of players, we want to focus on knocking people out right now, not building it. If we bet, we hope that MP2 will raise, thus making the field face 2 bets cold to fold.

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Betting out may slow every else down and call you down, so I think a c/r is called for at either the flop or the turn. Betting the flop and checking the turn may look suspicious, so why not c/r, then bet out on the turn and river?

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Check/raising anywhere in this hand with MP2 being the probable bettor does nothing, as we can't protect our hand. The only chance is if we let the person after us do the raising for us. Also, where the hell did you get the notion that betting will slow down players more than check/raising?

[NickRegino]

my thought exactly

[Felipe]

Has jeff even read the replies to his post? it's juicy stuff!

[MrWookie47]

I'd like the c/r better if the preflop raiser was on the button. Then you have a good relative position to blast people out of the pot. Here, you have the worst possible relative position for hand protection: driectly across from the raiser. You can't check/raise and blast out most of the table, and even if he raises your bet, it's not going to do much blasting. I think betting out here is better so that you avoid giving free cards, but mainly for value.

[Paradigm]

"blind post"

lead this hand, you'll get called and potentially get the opportunity to 3-bet the flop when you're way ahead. lead the whole time.

[Shillx]

I have read some of the replies, and they seem to be somewhat shortsided in how to play this hand. When I catch this flop I'm thinking about possible lines straight away. Here are the ones that come to mind --

Flop bet: Meh. I don't understand it really. You will get called by hands like AK that will bet when checked too (and then you can check/raise them).

Flop check-call-reraise: Straight out of HEPFAP. You intend to call MP2s bet and then reraise if someone else raises. This is the max value line.

Flop check-raise (or check-3bet): This better protects our hand from gutshots and such. This will help us win the pot more often then the check-call-reraise play. And against bad opponents who love to coldcall it might help us get more money into the pot. This is certainly the standard line here.

Flop check-call, turn check-raise: This is also maximizes our chance to win the pot. This is normally the best play on a draw heavy board where you really want to see what the turn card is before you fully invest yourself. So if the board were T96 with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]'s I'd highly consider doing this. Imo, it doesn't really make sense on this board though.

Brad