Play Along...This One's Really Tough IMO - Page 2

Harv72b · #11 04-25-2005, 10:23 PM

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I, however, am not good.

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Yer better than me, I'm quite sure. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

PokerBob · #12 04-25-2005, 10:24 PM

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I, however, am not good.

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Yer better than me, I'm quite sure. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Nah. Missing this raise is kinda bad. Damn 4-tabling.

Harv72b · #13 04-25-2005, 10:24 PM

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And if it gets re-raised to your left and capped by SB, then what?

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Getting at least 10:1 with no more raises possible, Hero calls with his 6-outer.

EDIT: probably more like a 5-outer, given the possible flush draw. But still good enough to call 2.

mr pink · #14 04-25-2005, 10:25 PM

sb could just be autobetting AK so you might have the best hand. if not, you've got a gutshot to fall back on and if your raise clears the fiels some, you can be a little more confident in your 9s being good too.

i'd raise

Harv72b · #15 04-25-2005, 10:27 PM

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sb could just be autobetting AK so you might have the best hand. if not, you've got a gutshot to fall back on and if your raise clears the fiels some, you can be a little more confident in your 9s being good too.

i'd raise

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I think it also bears mentioning that a good, aggressive player in the SB could raise with a lot of hands behind 4 limpers, and not just truly premium holdings.

mr pink · #16 04-25-2005, 10:29 PM

yeah but without a read, that's not something i'm taking into consideration here. but yeah, i know what you mean. i'd raise 9Ts and up there.

Shillx · #17 04-25-2005, 10:33 PM

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sb could just be autobetting AK so you might have the best hand. if not, you've got a gutshot to fall back on and if your raise clears the fiels some, you can be a little more confident in your 9s being good too.

i'd raise

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I think it also bears mentioning that a good, aggressive player in the SB could raise with a lot of hands behind 4 limpers, and not just truly premium holdings.

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Meh raising someing like JTs or 77 loses a lot of its appeal when you are OOP. Most players tighten up substantially when it comes to raising from the blinds. So someone with a total PFR of 7% might only raise 4% of the time from the blinds.

Brad

PokerBob · #18 04-25-2005, 10:51 PM

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero ??????

Nick C · #19 04-25-2005, 11:03 PM

Ugh. My instinct is to raise.

A read on SB would help.

Now I'll check what others have said.

Harv72b · #20 04-25-2005, 11:07 PM

A call/cap screams "I flopped a set" to the rest of the table (EDIT: or "I flopped the straight"). That may be good, it may be bad...I'm tempted to think it's good.

The same math as before applies...you're getting better than 10:1 to call with ~5 outs, and with a vulnerable hand like this one raising is almost certainly better than calling.