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Old 04-24-2005, 01:57 PM
Roman Roman is offline
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

Hand 1: You played it terribly... you can not build a huge pot like this with ace high.
Hand 2: I wouldnt play it exactly the same, but looks fine.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

I'll echo some of the others, and say that I don't like the PF raise in hand #1. If you were on the button, I'd like it more, but really you don't want to be out of position with that hand.

I think if you're going to play it PF, you should have raised more to just take it down right there. There's enough money in the pot after your raise that both players are getting reasonable odds on their hands to see a flop. And if someone pushes, you're really not going to like calling there.
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

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Also, why the final reraise at the end? It is just a few thousand chips, but why do it? You've got to be reasonably afraid of a king here.

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Old 04-24-2005, 03:54 PM
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Hand 1: You played it terribly... you can not build a huge pot like this with ace high.
Hand 2: I wouldnt play it exactly the same, but looks fine.

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He had 2 pair... Aces up
AJ

KKA board....

Blackjack
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

Yeah I shouldn't have posted results to the first hand. Although it woudld be obvious from the stack sizes in the second hand that I lost hand 1.

In hand 1, both players in front of me have been extremely loose. The c/o raise was his standard size, and button would raise (as seen by previous play) with any big hand. So I was confident 80-90% of the time they both had marginal hands. Perhaps AJ was too "good" of a hand here where I am making a play that can be made with any two cards. Knowing they only have a monster 10-20% of the time, does reraising bigger help chase them away, or does it pot commit too much then to a repush in the rare cases?
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

Well, that's the problem, a reraise AI is very likely at this point and you don't want that. I am OK with an AI resteal on your part, but the raise you put in doesn't make much sense - you won't fold out the button with this raise.

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Old 04-24-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: help! PP 200k ITM hands

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Well, that's the problem, a reraise AI is very likely at this point and you don't want that. I am OK with an AI resteal on your part, but the raise you put in doesn't make much sense - you won't fold out the button with this raise.

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Thanks for your comments. I agree with your assessment. I underestimated button's pot-odds to call, even though it's a quarter of his stack. On that board I'm either way ahead or way behind, so underestimation led me to believe that I'm way ahead. It's hard to get away from that flop in any case, though I see now that river screams I'm beat.
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