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Old 04-23-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

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I think checkraising is ok sometimes. I also think folding is ok sometimes.

This time, I think I'd checkraise.

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Why checkraise this time?

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The pot is large, you only have one other PF caller to "make it" through, it's a good flop for 66, and you have some backdoor draws which help cushion the blow if you do get 3-bet.

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Old 04-23-2005, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

Normally fold but sometimes check/raise.
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Old 04-23-2005, 03:47 AM
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I would check raise this against myself.

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Send me a PM when this matchup happens. I'm curious to see the outcome.


Also, for some content:
All things considered, I like a c/r here. But I'm not sure if I would have made that decision at the table.
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Old 04-23-2005, 04:01 AM
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If I know Villain to be a tight raiser, I check raise the flop.

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The tighter the raiser the more inclined you are to check-raise? Why is this? Wouldn't his tightness increase the chances he has a pocket pair?
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

I would fold than one. Given your read and with 2 overcards on board and even if you are ahead you hand is very vulnerable.
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

Folds.
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Old 04-23-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: Common mid-low pair situation: Ragged flop

I've been experimenting with c/r in this situation with a fold with a 3-bet on the turn UI.

However, I'm surprised how often I'm passively called down with QQ-TT here.
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Old 04-23-2005, 12:20 PM
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I stared at the board for a moment, told myself that that it's just a follow-through bet in position and even though I've got less than second pair, it's not a bad spot to check-raise. Then I got gunshy and folded.

I don't think a fold is terrible here, but to those who auto-fold this type of hand, the check-raise on a ragged board against a PFR is worth considering and adding to your playbook.
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