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Old 04-22-2005, 02:52 PM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: do you take a stand?

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He didn't have AA, he had A5s. If he did, and you knew it, you would be losing $13.29 by calling.

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I didn't read the results.

I don't think this is a useful way to think about things though, simply because I doubt you can put him on a weak ace with that push. Putting him on the range is obviously better, though not super important with QQ just because you're going to crush everything except for three hands.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:57 PM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: do you take a stand?

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Putting him on the range is obviously better, though not super important with QQ just because you're going to crush everything except for three hands.

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Chump big stack is pushing here with AA, KK almost never. He'll be tricky.
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Old 04-22-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: do you take a stand?

Apsotively. I just put that up because I ran it myself out of curiousity. The $1.80 or so is better as it is using a range that includes A5s. It would be better if you put him on a larger range. If you put him on a smaller range, then you were wrong about your range, but it could still be a good call.

In order for the call to be wrong though, he doesn't have to just have a range of AA, KK, AK. It may be surprising that 88+, AJ+, A9s+, KJs+ would make the call $0EV. Since you would still have FE if you fold it might not be a good call if you put him on that range. On the other hand, some people seem to feel that when ICM is close you should definitely call.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:42 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: do you take a stand?

You have 5 BBs left. - you need to call here.

Doubling up is your best shot at 1st, otherwise you are playing to hang on to third - and if one of the other short stacks doubles up - 3rd isn't really a guarantee for you.

But nice bad beat (sort of ) post.
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