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Old 04-15-2005, 12:14 PM
MoreWineII MoreWineII is offline
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

There's a huge difference from 3/6 to 5/10. I can't imagine going from 2/4 to 5/10. Play 3/6, you'll thank yourself later.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

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With that read on UTG, I would make this three bets pre-flop. I think that would have changed the whole complexion of the hand.


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Yuck.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

Even if your skills are strong enough to play at the higher levels, it takes some time to get used to the bigger amounts of money at risk. Even with the proper bankroll, jumping to a table that's 2 1/2 times the stakes you're used to is sure to give you a little sticker shock and impact the way you play. I'd recommend at least a little time at 3/6 before moving to 5/10.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

Awesome. Thank you guys for great input. But first - i havent moved to 5/10 - i just have a 400 hands peek about what is it looks like and i don't liked it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Advise about 3/6 is accepted and will be used. The only reason why i got shot on 5/10 is i thinked that 5/10 is lot easier than 3/6.

I had rumors that 15/30 is even easier than 2/4 - isn't it true? I thinked that way because:

a) fat fishes are certanly went to 15/30 rather than 1/2
b) i have lot of friend who making good money on 15/30 even without pokertracker and playerview!!! I think it's a very strange and idea that 15/30 is more beatable than 2/4 comes into my mind. Alas! please disappoint me before i put all my hard 2/4 winnings on 15/30 tables [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

c) some of guys from our Russian local forum (peter_rus for example) and others beating 15/30 out of s..t (for 3-4BB/100) and i thought that if very good player can have this winrate - i can do it for 1BB at least.
Please say me that i'm not right.

Because after looking for great success of my friends i coming to mind that i definatly losing my money on 2/4 having 9K of bankroll and still playing 2/4 instead of 15/30. I saying all the way that i NEED self-confidence about 2/4 and than may be i can play 3/6.

But i'll repeat to myself - no more 15/30-ing s..t before i got 50K hands of 3/6 on my tracker.

Thank you again guys. 2+2 does for me that no one can do.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

I think everyone on 2+2 should respond and suggest that Akimka give 3/6 a shot before 5/10.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

I still remember 2/4 being a cakewalk compared to 3/6... now 3/6 seems like a cakewalk compared to 5/10...

the point is that it takes a while to adjust your game to the new 'typical' player (more re-raising from lighter and lighter hands, better post-flop play, getting big hands paid off less on the end, bigger bankroll swings etc...)
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

Given that UTG is a 16% preflop raiser, you still don't like the raise here?

Why not?
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

Like everyone else in this thread, I am wondering why you don't play 3-6 for awhile.

I remember when I moved up to 3-6, and could barely handle the increased aggression there.

Now, I mostly play 5-10, and 10-20, and occasionally drop down to 3-6 when I am at my desk doing something else, or sometimes I play it on the smaller sites, when there aren't any good games higher.

Even though I used to think it was very aggressive, now I find it to be a very passive, and organized game compared to 5-10. I think you need to play 3-6 for a while and get acclimated to that game, before you make the jump to 5-10.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

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With that read on UTG, I would make this three bets pre-flop

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I understand your merits for 3-betting pre-flop, but IMO, 3-betting from UTG+1 is too early a position to do so, especially in an aggressive game. I could be wrong, but those are just my thoughts.

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The way I look at it, is I really would like to play this hand. I can't see folding, especially considering the raiser.

I think raising has some benefits that calling does not here. For instance calling, a hand like 77-99 might come in. Also the weaker off-suit ace hands (and some hands like AJs, ATs) should probably fold.

But I think it is worth a shot to keep this pot HU or shorthanded.
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Jump in to 5/10 from 2/4. Don\'t liked it at all - help needed.

Bob, maybe this isn't the place for it, but what can you tell me about 10/20 compared to 5/10? Planning on making the jump in the not-so-distant future.
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