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#12
04-15-2005, 11:17 AM
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Re: selective passivity out of the BB
Looks like you went for the worst of your 3 options on the flop.
I would probably bet the turn and check the river unimproved. I don't think you win this 1in 7 times on the river 
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#14
04-15-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: selective passivity out of the BB
to those who say to c/r the flop, i can only claim that i was negligent in my read description. If these guys are going to call, wether because they have a piece of the board or a pp, they are going to do it for one bet or two. If they dont have some sort of hand, they would most likely fold for one as likely as two. If i get called after i checkraise, im usually folding the turn, and if i get an overcall behind me when i dont raise, im folding the turn just as often. I dont think this hand is worth protecting, but im willing to float and see if i get HU vs the absolute donk of all donks.
As for the turn. I this hadnt been a diamond, i probably would have c/folded. The ace is very bad for me, as donks love to bet a high. however, my flush draw hu is going to be good a lot more times than i think adam is giving it credit for. This gives me just enough equity, imo (without doing any math whatsoever) to feel ok about the times im behind to either a king, an A, or a pp. im floating on to the river. Sweet, i know have the 92nd nut full house!!!! RAWK!!! Anyway, the king falling made it very unlikely that villian was betting a king. The A possibility was still there, but i know felt it was highly probably that villian had been betting a three, or a complete bluff, the whole way through, given his donkness. However, i think checkraising this was too much for two reasons. 1) Villian is never folding a better hand. If i am behind to a small pp, a raise will never win me the pot. If he is bluffing, he may not call, and if we are splitting, he will always call. Didnt seem like a raise made me much money. 2) Villian is a donk, and i think he would randomly find it in his little donk heart to 3bet me with a hand i beat. Or a hand that beats me. But i could never fold to this three bet, especially given the especially passive way i played the hand. So, check-call it is. I did think about betting the river, but seemed like he would raise hands that beat me usually, and soemtimes fold hands that i beat. I thought the check call was awesome. peace john nickle
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#16
04-15-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: selective passivity out of the BB
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I dont think this hand is worth protecting... [/ QUOTE ] If you are ahead, any card over 3 beats you on the turn or river. Donks don't fold when their 4 or 7 or whatever hits on this board.
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#17
04-15-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: selective passivity out of the BB
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Button is super donk. [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure he pays off with a middle pair or flush. I'm not saying it's the best line. But it crossed my mind as a possibility and I hadn't seen it mentioned. Never mind...I was thinking it was the 3 that paired not the third K.
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