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Old 04-14-2005, 12:52 AM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

So, how long have you been ball-less? You know, without balls. What I'm trying to say is, when did you become a [censored] woman?
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

yep, that's basically why it is that you basically never fold aa preflop.

just whenever you think about doing it, remind yourself of the concept of "first place equity"

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Old 04-14-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

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So, how long have you been ball-less? You know, without balls. What I'm trying to say is, when did you become a [censored] woman?

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these are just the sort of replys that put me on the right track. thanks for the tough love.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

wow, if you liked that, you're going to LOVE my replies from now on.

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Old 04-14-2005, 01:22 AM
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wow, if you liked that, you're going to LOVE my replies from now on.

citanul

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lol! I can own up to stupid mistakes.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

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Maybe, the first hand of the WSOP and somehow two people managed to get all in in front of me holding AA, MAYBE.

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No. That would be atrocious.

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If you think you have any skill at all you can easily fold the first hand at the WSOP. There is no reason to risk you whole stack on the first hand with the blinds structure. You start with 10,000 chips and the blinds are only 25-50 to start. That would be like somebody raise $1000 preflop in a 2-5 game that is just obsurd. You cannot win the tournament on the first hand, there is no need to try. Take a look at tournament poker for advanced players, this might give you some further insight.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:34 AM
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Yeah, I was afraid it was a weak play. I would have won the hand, and with that kind of chip stack I would have almost certainly won the whole thing. Oh well, live and learn.

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call would be the right play but your post is a little results oriented right
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

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Maybe, the first hand of the WSOP and somehow two people managed to get all in in front of me holding AA, MAYBE.

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No. That would be atrocious.

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If you think you have any skill at all you can easily fold the first hand at the WSOP. There is no reason to risk you whole stack on the first hand with the blinds structure. You start with 10,000 chips and the blinds are only 25-50 to start. That would be like somebody raise $1000 preflop in a 2-5 game that is just obsurd. You cannot win the tournament on the first hand, there is no need to try. Take a look at tournament poker for advanced players, this might give you some further insight.

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I would think having an excellent chance to triple my stack would be a very good reason to risk my stack. Even a world class player will on average triple his starting stack less often then you would win this hand.

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Old 04-14-2005, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

Hmm, 2 players make it to the WSOP and get all in front of you without AA? With the blind structure, it doesn't seem likely their getting all their chips in on even with AA preflop. If anything it seems like one would be calling a raise to trap someone.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Correct to fold AA preflop?

We need a sticky at the top of the forum that says:

Never fold aces PF (nt)
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