High Level Thinking Party 2-4 NL Hand

[creedofhubris]

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I played this hand last night and I think it was pretty standard. This hand involved very high level thinking (for a monkey, at least). After seeing the hand, it's likely you'll think I am a fish or something, and that I love sooted cards. Well, one of those is true (I'll let you guess which). Before you criticize me (Hero) for playing the hand like I did, you have to realize that poker is about gambooling and that the person who currently has the best hand is not "entitled" to winning anything until all 5 cards are shown on the board.

I'm wondering if I could have gotten away from this hand at any point, seeing as how I love gambooling and I don't care about giving people bad beats. Keep in mind that I'm only 17 years old and I am a regular winning player. My strategy when I play poker is to win or lose a lot of money by gambooling, and then let my opponents donate their entire stacks to me later on when they're drawing dead.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($409.5)</font>
BB ($757.9)
UTG ($1285.9)
UTG+1 ($1249.82)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($364)</font>
MP2 ($384.4)
MP3 ($382.3)
CO ($400)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($407.15)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $4.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $4, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($24) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $75</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $125</font>, Hero calls $100, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $403.15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $405.5</font>, MP1 calls $60.

Turn: ($1192.65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: ($1192.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $1192.65
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $1192.65, between Hero, MP1 and Button.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Hero ($1192.65).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 8c Jc (flush, ace high).
MP1 has As Ad (three of a kind, aces).
Button has 2h Ah (two pair, aces and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $1192.65. </font>


So what do you think? Am I ready to turn pro? I'm working on a huge (novel length) post that's going to basically document my poker career and how I became a poker pro at the age of 17. Keep your eyes open for it within the next couple of weeks.


God Bless!
-MagnoliasFM

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Your line can't be tooooooo wrong unless you are up against both a higher flush draw and a better made hand. Since BOTH opponents are raising and reraising, it's much more likely you're against two made hands, so a call is gamboooling but not suicide.

MP1's line is awwwwful. Limping AA when there's already a caller or two in the pot is an act of sheer idiocy.

[fimbulwinter]

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MP1's line is awwwwful. Limping AA when there's already a caller or two in the pot is an act of sheer idiocy.

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I agree, however Sklansky would not.

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[Richie Rich]

This is the most entertaining post I've read all day. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[imported_stealthcow]

wheres the high level thinking?

[Chad97]

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Just because you outdrew on one hand doesnt mean you are a pro. Don't get ahead of yourself. Stay in school.

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[Komodo]

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=895251
pokenum -h 8c jc - ah 2h - as ad -- ac 8h 2c
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing Ac 2c 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jc 8c 280 31.01 623 68.99 0 0.00 0.310
Ah 2h 46 5.09 857 94.91 0 0.00 0.051
As Ad 577 63.90 326 36.10 0 0.00 0.639

Your play is actually fine, especially after you had called the first 25$ bet. The problem I can see are if youre up against another flush draw and especially a higher flush draw.

[Deftoner]

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wheres the high level thinking?

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Yea I don't get it either.

[someguy123]

What you are playing is a flush draw, because you cant count 8 or jack as outs. The problem is that if button is playing A2 like this he can just as likely have a flush draw. sometimes it will be higher than yours, then you will be drawing dead or almost dead.

sometimes he will infact have lower str8, flush draw. and that means he will have 2 of your your outs.

[drexah]

read below.

[drexah]

Im almost 99% convinced the post was a joke.

Ie: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5827&amp;Forum

"I am a business major" and "I can relate because I am also a college student working by playing poker. But please do yourself a favor by not stretching your bankroll out too much"

Nice try, Magnolia [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]