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#11
03-31-2005, 01:44 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
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Oh - one other thing - in reading some other threads, I've heard people dumping on "the dice chips." Are these the chips I've seen that their outer edges marked with white dice? Are these the same as the chips with the cards on them? What is to be avoided in buying a nice set? Other than the obvious cheapies, are their any brands that represent themselves as being of higher quality than they actually are? Brands to avoid no matter what? [/ QUOTE ] Some of this is a snob thing (and I include myself in that group). I played a nice long game the night before last with folks using cheap Chinese "dice" chips (or suit or cards or whatever). We had crazy cards, lots of beer, and a few low necklines (on the girls, of course) so I enjoyed the hell out of it. Didn't matter what chips we used. I paid more for 5 collectible chips last weekend than that whole set of 300 "dice" chips cost! Chips matter like cars matter -- depends if you're into it for status, quality, show-offs, or basic transporation so you can spend your money on other things. So if you want a nice set that feels good, lasts long, and has some pizazz -- then buy the best you can afford and don't worry about it. Worry about whether to raise with pocket jacks! 
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#12
03-31-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
The infamous dice chips:
Dice chips often advertised as "REAL CLAY CASINO WEIGHT 11.5g POKER CHIPS". Note that they are NOT clay, they're plastic with a metal slug in the metal. Also come in other designs, like "suited", "AK", etc. Basically, any time I see "11.5 g", I just run the other way, because most of the nice chips are 9-10g. If you want high end chips, stick with the brands Tomb mentioned. If you want chips exactly like casinos use, you either want Paulsons or Chipcos. There's no real "bad brands" per se because most any brand people have actually heard of makes good chips. No one really knows who makes the dice chips... Edit: 1 exception about the brands. You probably don't want Nexgen chips, even though they're decent for the price, they are not high end chips. You'll know if they're high end by the price. With the exception of the Nevada Jack ceramics (i.e. "Desert Sands", "Skulls"), which are nice chips ~0.50 per chip, most high end chips run around $1/chip. Oh, and definitely second (or third I guess) the idea of getting samples. Samples are a must.
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#13
03-31-2005, 01:49 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
EXCELLENT writeup but I must add two things with regards to the Nevada Jacks chips based on what I've read:
1) The surface texture is pretty significantly different, which causes them to wear slower. For all but the most active home games this supposedly means you'll rarely if ever see noticeable wear that is associated with ChipCo Chips... and 2) As a result, the ChipCo chips now all have a white "rim" around all corners. Either it's designed that way (newer chips) or wear causes it (older sets). Somehow Nevada Jacks is able to minimize this side effect.
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#14
03-31-2005, 02:13 AM
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I'm looking for a chip that is heavy... [/ QUOTE ] Look no further... 14 GRAM TRI COLOR ACE KING SUITED CLAY POKER CHIP New 2005 Chip: Heaviest Chip Ever Made! These 14 gram Tri-Color Ace/King Clay Chips are 39 mm diameter casino-sized chips and are designed with an authentic soft clay look and texture. They also are the heaviest chip available on the market! Just make sure you have strong fingers and a sturdy table [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#15
03-31-2005, 02:22 AM
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Consumers can't buy casino chips from Paulson [/ QUOTE ] Why not? I've read a lot about chips recently, and I've seen this repeated several places. I guess its obvious why you can't buy, for example, the exact Bellagio or Mirage chips. But why can't the consumer buy the nearly exact chip (same composition, look, feel, etc.) and substitute a personalized label? Is it really that easy for a consumer to turn the unlabeled "real" casino chip into something that passes off as a real Bellagio/Mirage etc. chip? Just curious.
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#16
03-31-2005, 02:32 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
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So, the Chipcos suits are like the chips at the Borgata, for example? Personally, I like the feel of this type of chip, but I've heard people complain that they slide and can be tough to stack. [/ QUOTE ] To follow up on the Borgatas -- are they Bud Jones or Chipco ceramics? If these are the chips you used (the standard house chips at Borgata), they are definitely Bud Jones: http://www.callzia.com/dghome/acchips/BOR-1.jpg http://www.callzia.com/dghome/acchips/BOR-250.jpg http://www.callzia.com/dghome/acchips/BOR-5.jpg http://www.callzia.com/dghome/acchips/BOR-25.jpg Feel good, don't they?!? There have been some issues about whether the newer BJs have mainatined the quality and feel of the older BJs, but they're still damn fine chips.
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#17
03-31-2005, 09:55 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
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[ QUOTE ] Consumers can't buy casino chips from Paulson [/ QUOTE ] Why not? I've read a lot about chips recently, and I've seen this repeated several places. I guess its obvious why you can't buy, for example, the exact Bellagio or Mirage chips. But why can't the consumer buy the nearly exact chip (same composition, look, feel, etc.) and substitute a personalized label? Is it really that easy for a consumer to turn the unlabeled "real" casino chip into something that passes off as a real Bellagio/Mirage etc. chip? Just curious. [/ QUOTE ] the answer is "b/c paulson doesn't feel like it." security is an issue; not b/c it's easy to counterfeit, but b/c paulson wants to be able to tell casinos "security is absolute." it's clear, though, from ten's paulson group buy, that paulson isn't much interested in making sales to us. they'll do it, but only if a,b,c,d,e, and f. ten's thing is going to get done, but it aint easy. they (paulson) just aren't interested in selling to home buyers, for whatever reasons.
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#18
03-31-2005, 10:14 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
If you are looking at The Suits from Chipco, give the Desert Sands a look at nevadajacks.net. Right now there are a hell of a good deal for a great chip. 900 chips for the price of 600.
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03-31-2005, 10:20 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
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most chips that are without brand are garbage. chips that aren't garbage: chipco, NJ composites, NJ clays, paulson clays, matsui clay or plastics, bud jones, and other blue chip clays (questionably). [/ QUOTE ] ASM clay chips, available from pokerchips.com and Kardwell.com, and TR King clays are also not "garbage."
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#20
03-31-2005, 11:54 AM
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Re: Poker Chips - Design, Quality, Feel, etc.
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[ QUOTE ] most chips that are without brand are garbage. chips that aren't garbage: chipco, NJ composites, NJ clays, paulson clays, matsui clay or plastics, bud jones, and other blue chip clays (questionably). [/ QUOTE ] ASM clay chips, available from pokerchips.com and Kardwell.com, and TR King clays are also not "garbage." [/ QUOTE ] oops. didn't mean to leave those out. i like asm chips. not a fan of tr king, but they certainly aren't trash.
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