Mentioning the rake on a nut straight river...(Ethical?)

[reubenf]

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I've seen people fold when it's obvious everyone is playing the board.

Raise 'er up.

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[bottomset]

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I've seen people fold when it's obvious everyone is playing the board.

Raise 'er up.

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exactly, you'll cost yourself less than a .25 in extra rake .. but if they fold you get an extra 1/6 of the pot

besides how often does this really come up?

[Thigh]

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besides how often does this really come up?

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You would think not very often, but I've seen it enough to have to ask the question. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone ever bothered to mention to another player that they're just upping the rake, and lowering their BR.

[DavidC]

Hehehe...

I see this every now and then and it does frustrate me.

Just keep this in mind: it impacts your winrate minimally, because it's not often that the board has the nuts.

However, identifying yourself as a player good enough to think about the rake could be -EV. At the very least the other players will see you as being "cheap", which could mean tight. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Thigh]

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However, identifying yourself as a player good enough to think about the rake could be -EV. At the very least the other players will see you as being "cheap", which could mean tight.

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Hahaha, that's funny. I hadn't thought about it from that point of view. But hey, I just thought about this also, remembering that I'm playing .25/.50, how many of them actually knew what I was talking about? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[itsmesteve]

since your message wasn't, "hey, dummies, we're gonna chop" but rather simply 'rake' i think its fine. if they can't make the connection, the little bit lost to the rake will be made up by the fact that they can't read the board, imo.

[cardcounter0]

Raise. The amount of additional rake will be offset by the number of times some one folds and you get a bigger percentage of the pot.

Yesterday, I bet the river on a nut board and the other player folded.
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[Shillx]

I like to change it up...

"Blast! I knew this [censored] was rigged! All of you fuckers work for Party Poker don't you? Oh yeah, well I hope you all die by a pack of rabid wombats! - Piece John Nickle"

or during the hand...

"The pot is protected, you guys should fold. - Piece John Nickle" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Brad

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Thigh, lets assume its capped 3ways = 6.00 which will be .50 raked, maybe .75

which means your share is either .167 or .25 .. 1/3BB to 1/2BB

now if 1 idiot folds, you get an extra 1/6th of the pot before the river + 1/2 of all bets he put in afterwards(lets assume he folds to the first bet)

1/6 of the pot in your example is 1.67 or a little more than 3BB .. worth the risk

here are the situations that this can come up

AKQJT no3flush
royal flushboard
AAAKK(outside of KK)
xxxxA(quads +A)

everything else the board isn't guareenteed to play, these don't come up more than once every 1000hands at most

stop worrying about them

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DAMN!!! Okay, okay, okay, I can take a hint. I guess I just hand't thought about it with that much fervor. (Nice word, huh?) [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]