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#11
10-08-2002, 01:10 AM
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Re: $100-$200 Hand
I'd just call. His limp before the flop, raise after with top pair top kicker, check/call perhaps wary of pocket Queens,pocket Kings or Aces and flush draws on the turn and an out of position bet on the river suggests some strength in his holding of AJ. Good luck!
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#12
10-08-2002, 02:00 AM
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Re: $100-$200 Hand
Anybody like a raise pre-flop or taking a free card on the turn?
I like the 3-bet on the flop because it give you the power to decide what to do on the turn. On the river, you may not have the best hand the majority of the time when your raise is called, so calling seems better to me. Since he limped pre-flop, I don't put him on A-K or A-Q (at least not in my game, although I seem to remember you saying you saw this more in AZ than in Vegas).
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#14
10-08-2002, 03:23 AM
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Re: $100-$200 Hand
The $20-$40, $40-$80, and $60-$120 games are among the best in the country. They play these games with a half-kill and they are all loose-passive although sometimes moderately aggressive.
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#16
10-08-2002, 03:30 AM
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Re: $100-$200 Hand
yknow, i didnt know that. i thought that term meant it was just a pair. eh heh heh....
where's that rock i fit under so well..... poke poke ah, there it is....ill just... #grunt# .... get under here.... #slide, scuffle scuffle# .... just about there...#grunt# there, kinda cramped, but itll work <blink, blink> b
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#17
10-08-2002, 09:33 AM
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About the kill structure...
Is it just me, but usually the killer should have to speak first since he's UTG and not last. It's not a straddle. What if he was on the button? The action would not pass him and then come back to him if the BB checks.
Unless I'm missing something...
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#18
10-08-2002, 01:44 PM
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Re: About the kill structure...
The kill works differently in different card rooms. At Casino Arizona, when a player wins two pots in a row and the second pot exceeds a certain dollar amount, he must post a blind bet equal to the small bet in the new kill structure. For example, in the $60-$120 game with a kill to $100-$200, the player with the kill button must post a $100 blind bet. So you have a $30 small blind, a $60 big blind, and the guy with the kill button posting a $100 blind. The stakes are $100-$200 for that hand only.
Now because the guy with the kill button is posting the $100 he gets to act last on the preflop betting round regardless of where he is seated. In my example, since the "killer" is under-the-gun, the guys sitting on his immediate left is first to act on the preflop betting round only. The action then goes in order around the table with the "killer" being the last to act. If the killer had been on the button then the action would go around the table until it got to the button. At that point, the small blind would have to act followed by the big blind. Once the big blind had acted, then the action would go to the killer in the button. Now here is where it gets tricky. Suppose the killer is on the button and someone raise to $200? At Casino Arizona, because of the raise, the killer would have to act in turn so he would act before the small blind whereas had no one raised then the killer would act after the big blind. Other card rooms don't have this rule. If there is a raise before the action gets to the killer, it does not chance the fact that the killer gets to act last.
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#19
10-08-2002, 02:11 PM
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Re: $100-$200 Hand
I would only call here. While there is a good chance that you have the best hand, the only time you are going to get paid off is when you are beat. I guess that means you won't get paid off.
I would have three bet preflop as well. You may win on the turn without even improving your hand. Also, bodes well when you make a strong made hand. Seems deceptive, but it isn't really.
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#20
10-08-2002, 02:41 PM
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Re: About the kill structure...
Thanks Jim,
I've never played in a kill game like that. I really don't understand the purpose of it unless it's to mess with your head [img]/forums/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] . I mean, it's really simpler to have the killer play in order. Also, what if the BB raises, does the killer now acts first after the raise or does it go around the table first?
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