Separation of church and state

[BCPVP]

I'm in total agreement with this post. I disagree that the TC endorse a religion, becaust that is not the intent or purpose of their display.

[jesusarenque]

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How exactly do bible passages, specifically the Ten Commandments, endorse Christianity, over Judiasm?


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Jews, Catholics, and Protestants all have different versions of the TC. The posting of the Protestant TC seems to be an endorsement over the other two versions.

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I'm in total agreement with this post. I disagree that the TC endorse a religion, becaust that is not the intent or purpose of their display.

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The TC is a religious document, plain and simple. For a person in government to endorse this document is perfectly OK. But a monument on public property puts government itself in the position of endorsing the TC.

This is an important distinction. We can vote the person in government out of office if we disagree with his/her beliefs. But when government itself endorses a religious document, what recourse do I have if I disagree?


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[BCPVP]

Mere wording is the difference. They say relatively the same thing. The Protestant one might have been chosen simply out of local tradition.

[jesusarenque]

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Mere wording is the difference. They say relatively the same thing. The Protestant one might have been chosen simply out of local tradition.

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Nevertheless, it is still choosing one over the other.

[BCPVP]

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The TC is a religious document, plain and simple.

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What makes it a religious document? That it invokes the Almighty?

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But a monument on public property puts government itself in the position of endorsing the TC.

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Explain. I'm interested in why this display endorses a particular religion and why it's purpose isn't to give a hat tip to some of the foundations for our moral and legal society.

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But when government itself endorses a religious document, what recourse do I have if I disagree?

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Vote in someone who will take it down?
Hold a referenda on whether it should stay or go?

Again, what if it is art we're talking about? Should religious art be removed from all public places? To what extent should we purge anything smelling of religion?

[ACPlayer]

Or perhaps simply acknowledged as one of the foundations of the country?

Ummm, and where did you find this?

[goofball]

The TC being posted in no way endorses christianity over judaism. Amazingly there are more religions than these two. It endorses it over islam, athemism, wiccan, belief in greek gods, etc etc etc

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What makes [the TC] a religious document? That it invokes the Almighty?


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yes. Did you really ask that?

[ACPlayer]

There are other religions in this country.

[BCPVP]

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Amazingly there are more religions than these two.

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You don't say...
I still disagree that it's an endorsement and not that it is an acknowledgment of principals that are found in the U.S. legal system as well as general morals.

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yes. Did you really ask that?

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Is the Declaration of Independence, one of the founding documents in a sense, a religious document because of it's invokations of a higher being? Should we remove the original DoI? Should it not be taught in public schools?
What about speeches by government officials that mention God? Are they religious documents? Would the part of the Inaguration speech that had the minister praying make that speech a religious document? Where is this line??! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]