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Old 03-17-2005, 11:27 AM
john_ john_ is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

I'd probably fold with 3 tight players with decent stacks all-in in front of me.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Folding KK

With only 5 people left, even if it is a 6 handed starting table is not considered early table play. Plus, remember that the STTs with the 10 minute levels require you to make the most out of the few premium hands you see. Having KK and getting no callers sucks. Having two people all-in before you and looking down at KK is euphoria.
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Old 03-17-2005, 12:56 PM
EarlCat EarlCat is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

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My KK would have held up. Doh!

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Call was probably the answer here, but a fold shows you've got some serious dicipline (maybe too much?). How did you end up doing in the tournament?
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Old 03-17-2005, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Folding KK

Sadly I busted out in 4h place when my all-in JJ was called by Ax and an ace hit the flop.

Thanks again for everyone's input on my bad play...lol.

Drewboy22
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:04 PM
KenProspero KenProspero is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

You know, I think the odds are far higher that Both button and SB have One Ace, than they are that either has two.

You may come up against AA and lose, or more likely one or both has an A and an A hits the table. However, you're a big favorite.

Except in extremely unusual circumstances (say you have 50 chips left on the bubble, so your chances of finishing ITM are best if one of the two all-inners busts out) I'm all in here.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Folding KK

I think this is a definitely call. If you're up against AA then so be it. More likely than not you're a huge favorite to get a big stack. Play for first.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:21 PM
Spladle Master Spladle Master is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

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I also felt that I was one of the better players at the table and did not want to get busted out on a coin flip.
Any comments would be appreciated.

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If this was your actual reasoning then you are obviously NOT one of the better players at the table.

Also, this is a bad fold.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:54 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

It's a widely known fact that Phil Helmuth is the only player in the world good enough to fold kings preflop. Unless you are Phil Helmuth, don't fold.

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Old 03-17-2005, 03:05 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: Folding KK

Folding KK here is horrible.

Also, you will never be in a 'coin flip' with KK. You're either a big favorite, or a big dog to you know what.
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Folding KK

There is nowhere that Sklansky would ever recommend folding KK in any situation even remotely similar to this.

Calling is automatic
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