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2 years 9 45.00%
2-5 years 8 40.00%
5-10 years 3 15.00%
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Old 03-12-2005, 07:47 AM
bernie bernie is offline
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In Vegas, Gates usually plays the 3-6 game at the Mirage. The reason for this is the concern that gambling for big stakes risks creating the image of gambling with company money.

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Being that he's the richest man in the world, I doubt this would be a concern if he played 20-40. People wouldn't even blink if he played 100-200.

I think this is more on par for people in smaller, more easily troubled companies.

That said, I think it's kind of cool he has the restraint not to want to play higher limits where most in his position easily would.

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Old 03-12-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Questions about the 4k-8 game

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i see that a lot of ppl put more than 7.5 million....500bb = 4 million ? care to discuss?

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BR is a function of standard deviation and win rate. Even for a world class player, in this game WR is low, and SD is high.

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Old 03-12-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Questions about the 4k-8 game

The guy's got $50 billion, playing $3-6 is no different to $300-600 for him.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Questions about the 4k-8 game

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In Vegas, Gates usually plays the 3-6 game at the Mirage. The reason for this is the concern that gambling for big stakes risks creating the image of gambling with company money.

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Interesting since this apparently is the same issue that was reported in the Wall Street Journal about Andy Beal. Apparently he was/is under pressure from his board of directors to stop playing in those high stakes poker games cause it's bad for his bank's image. It was a very interesting article about how Beal takes an unorthodox approch to his loan portfolio, etc.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Questions about the 4k-8 game

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In Vegas, Gates usually plays the 3-6 game at the Mirage. The reason for this is the concern that gambling for big stakes risks creating the image of gambling with company money.

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Being that he's the richest man in the world, I doubt this would be a concern if he played 20-40. People wouldn't even blink if he played 100-200.

I think this is more on par for people in smaller, more easily troubled companies.

That said, I think it's kind of cool he has the restraint not to want to play higher limits where most in his position easily would.

b

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BTW he's welcome to play at my home game any time.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Questions about the 4k-8 game

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i see that a lot of ppl put more than 7.5 million....500bb = 4 million ? care to discuss?

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sure. If you're a losing player, there is no adequate bankroll. So one billion dollars would not be enough to not go broke in that game given enough time.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:57 PM
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with those players i dont think this game is one about winning money as much as seeing whose the best player among them.

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ahahahhahahahhahaahha....









you are joking, right?
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:41 PM
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sure. If you're a losing player, there is no adequate bankroll. So one billion dollars would not be enough to not go broke in that game given enough

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er, that pertains to nothing what i said? its commonly accepted that 300bb for a full game and 500 for a 6 max game, is the br that leaves little chance for a winning player to bust......so Im just making the point, that 4 million is adequate, if that is your only your BR, obv. ??????????????
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:18 PM
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i see that a lot of ppl put more than 7.5 million....500bb = 4 million ? care to discuss?


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sure. If you're a losing player, there is no adequate bankroll. So one billion dollars would not be enough to not go broke in that game given enough

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er, that pertains to nothing what i said? its commonly accepted that 300bb for a full game and 500 for a 6 max game, is the br that leaves little chance for a winning player to bust......so Im just making the point, that 4 million is adequate, if that is your only your BR, obv. ??????????????

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It doesn't matter if your bankroll is 1,000,000,000 $, you're going to go broke in the Big Game if you are not a +EV player in it. No bankroll is sufficient for a losing player.
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:18 AM
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i see that a lot of ppl put more than 7.5 million....500bb = 4 million ? care to discuss?


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sure. If you're a losing player, there is no adequate bankroll. So one billion dollars would not be enough to not go broke in that game given enough

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er, that pertains to nothing what i said? its commonly accepted that 300bb for a full game and 500 for a 6 max game, is the br that leaves little chance for a winning player to bust......so Im just making the point, that 4 million is adequate, if that is your only your BR, obv. ??????????????

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It doesn't matter if your bankroll is 1,000,000,000 $, you're going to go broke in the Big Game if you are not a +EV player in it. No bankroll is sufficient for a losing player.

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In addition, the 300 BB bankroll is the rule of thumb for a 1 BB per hour winner. Even the top players in the 4K/8K game are supposedly not even making a small bet per hour.
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