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Old 03-08-2005, 12:13 PM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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Default Re: The sad state of collusion....

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And most of these people lose their money to 2+2'ers anyway.

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Yes. But there is nothing inherent in skill that makes skilled people less likely to cheat unfortunately.

And it's not the colluders directly stealing my cash that has me worried, it's them drying out the pond of fish, both directly and by scaring fish off.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:18 PM
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Why is what he did any different than if the same conversation had taken place at a B&M table? At a live table it would be considered part of the game, and no one would raise an eyebrow if he misrepresented his hand. He would be bluffing and his friend would be a bad poker player to take his word for it. All's fair....

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one difference is that in a bm game, the whole table would be aware of the discussion.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:21 PM
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"...Oh yeah, my dad and his friends play that all the time. They all call each other up and then tell each other thier hands so that they know when to fold...."

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hopefully this is all theyre doing, rather than trying to really make a score
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: The sad state of collusion....

Actually, a lot of B&M's have a rule in tourneys that one player in a hand cannot say anything to induce or reduce action. This goes whether the player is correctly representing his hand or not. The intent of this rule to prevent collusion.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: The sad state of collusion....

I just watched the movie Rounders last night, and in that, Matt Damon and Worm has a set of signals they used to clue each other into their hands. They shared their profits and losses though.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:32 PM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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Default Re: The sad state of collusion....

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Why is what he did any different than if the same conversation had taken place at a B&M table? At a live table it would be considered part of the game, and no one would raise an eyebrow if he misrepresented his hand. He would be bluffing and his friend would be a bad poker player to take his word for it. All's fair....

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one difference is that in a bm game, the whole table would be aware of the discussion.

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They were the only two left in the pot. The conversation had no impact on any other player. I agree in general that it is a bad idea for two people to play in the same game and to be in contact other than through chat. In this particular case, no harm, no foul.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:33 PM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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I just watched the movie Rounders last night, and in that, Matt Damon and Worm has a set of signals they used to clue each other into their hands. They shared their profits and losses though.

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Let that be a lesson to you. Never play poker with anyone named Worm.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:42 PM
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Why is what he did any different than if the same conversation had taken place at a B&M table? At a live table it would be considered part of the game, and no one would raise an eyebrow if he misrepresented his hand. He would be bluffing and his friend would be a bad poker player to take his word for it. All's fair....

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one difference is that in a bm game, the whole table would be aware of the discussion.

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They were the only two left in the pot. The conversation had no impact on any other player. I agree in general that it is a bad idea for two people to play in the same game and to be in contact other than through chat. In this particular case, no harm, no foul.

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youre in a tournament (or a live game for that matter) and wouldnt want to know who the friends are at the table? you wouldnt want to know what they are talking about? i think it impacts every player in the game.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:49 PM
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There are a lot of people that will do nearly anything to beat you at poker. Some will even jeopardize their bankroll in the process (cause they ain't too smart).

What are you willing to do in your own defense? Hint: An e-mail to customer support is almost the same as whacking off.
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Old 03-08-2005, 06:43 PM
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so your kinda just as bad as the guy you were busting on about his chip dumping on poker host?.

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Why is what he did any different than if the same conversation had taken place at a B&M table? At a live table it would be considered part of the game, and no one would raise an eyebrow if he misrepresented his hand. He would be bluffing and his friend would be a bad poker player to take his word for it. All's fair....

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Private conversations are not allowed on a B&M table. All players must be able to hear the conversation.
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