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Old 02-28-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Fact or Fiction?: 6-max is More \"Swingy\" than Full

how many six max hands have contributed to std dev

20,000.

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Old 02-28-2005, 10:36 PM
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the party 5-10 6max game is not very aggressive so swings are not that great.

the 10-20 6max is more aggressive so swings are worse.
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:20 AM
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the 10-20 6max is more aggressive so swings are worse

OK, so what is your standard deviation at 5/10 & 10/20 6-max? Do you have some evidence that variance and aggression are related?

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Old 03-01-2005, 01:32 PM
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the 10-20 6max is more aggressive so swings are worse

OK, so what is your standard deviation at 5/10 & 10/20 6-max? Do you have some evidence that variance and aggression are related?


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I dont have pokertracker in front of me but I have about 10,000 10/20 hands. I remember 2 +100 BB days and 1 -250BB downswing.

In 40,000 5/10 hands I never had a downswing that bad and I can only remember 3 +100BB swings.

However, I am not convinced I am a winning 10/20 player.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default u are 100% right

I know for a fact that its a myth that SD is bigger at 10/20 6max then at 5/106max at Party Poker.

I have nearly excatly the same (0.2/100 lower at 10/20)

10/20 is more lagish so it feels swingier and its more $. Thats all there is to it.

Well, okay, 10/20 is 100h/hour and 5/10 is 90h/hour, but that is not a lot. I play 400 hands/hour when I 4table, not many playing so many hands at full table? Or are u guys 6- 0r 8-tabling?
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:51 PM
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the party 5-10 6max game is not very aggressive so swings are not that great.

the 10-20 6max is more aggressive so swings are worse.

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I find the 5-10 6max games totally unbearable lately, I've had about 10 losing sessions in a row. I've played roughly 20,000 hands or so without making any money.
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:38 PM
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Your 3rd assumtion is wrong.
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:26 AM
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Your 3rd assumtion is wrong.

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Why?
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Fact or Fiction?: 6-max is More \"Swingy\" than Full

No, #3 is correct. If you have a true win rate of 2BB/100, a SD of 15BB/100 and play 100 hand sessions, then 95% of your sessions will fall between +31.4BB and -27.4BB. If you play 200 hand sessions then 95% of your sessions will fall between +45.6BB and -37.6BB.

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Old 03-01-2005, 01:28 PM
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3) Time compression. More hands played per hour means more hands played for the same session length and consequently, greater wins and losses per session will be observed.


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No, #3 is correct. If you have a true win rate of 2BB/100, a SD of 15BB/100 and play 100 hand sessions, then 95% of your sessions will fall between +31.4BB and -27.4BB. If you play 200 hand sessions then 95% of your sessions will fall between +45.6BB and -37.6BB.


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What if you played 10,000 hand sessions? What if you played 100,000 hand sessions? It is intuitive to me that as your amount of hands per sessions increases then your winrate/session approaches your true winrate.
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